oaklandude Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I believe those fakes on ioffer are done pretty well.they may be orville les pauls which for $300.00 would'nt be that terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 You are of course, fully entitled to your opinion. Don't think there's many on this forum that would share it however? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Doesn't matter how good or bad they are. You're deceiving somebody by trying to pass it off as a real Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I believe those fakes on ioffer are done pretty well.they may be orville les pauls which for $300.00 would'nt be that terrible. Your having a laugh. Zeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Would you eat cat litter if I told you it was granola - with raisins? I could sell it to you cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Would you eat cat litter if I told you it was granola - with raisins? I could sell it to you cheap.... Is it that new corn meal based cat littler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Either way. New and Improved corn meal, or Traditional clay. Lotsa raisins in every bite. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 wow, yet another thread on fakes. awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 wow' date=' yet [i']another[/i] thread on fakes. awesome. And here I was saying the forum had become a little boring... :P That said, I always wanted to take part on one of this legendary fake threads... and now that I got my chance I just don't know what to say+:-@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I believe those fakes on ioffer are done pretty well.they may be orville les pauls which for $300.00 would'nt be that terrible. If you believe those guitars are even in the same ball park, then I see no point in you spending your money on a fine, high quality instrument like a Gibson. You wouldn't appreciate it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroadsnyc Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 This thread makes me suspicious. I smell a plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigglesjets Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Surely its only a copy or replica if your buying one of these at these prices , It's only a FAKE if someone tries to sell you it as a Gibson at Gibson prices. anyone who thinks they are going to buy the real thing for $200 to $300 is obviously out of touch with reality. I own an original Gibson Les Paul but also have a Chinese 57 Les Paul Goldtop (replica) and 4 "Vintage" les Paul style guitars which all play as well as my LP original. Why is it if someone copies a gun its a replica,but when someone copies a guitar its a fake. Mmmmm! By the way I bought my 57 Replica from ioffer.com and I am stunned at the quality and playability of it.I have gigged it a few times and knowone has even spotted the difference Its a pity "Gibson" prices don't come back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 And here I was saying the forum had become a little boring... That said' date=' I always wanted to take part on one of this legendary fake threads... and now that I got my chance I just don't know what to say+:-@ [/quote'] It only get legendary if someone posts a picture and then asks everyone if they think it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom brown Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Lets see first i got a schecter with seymour duncans cause they said it sounded like a gibson, then i got a epiphone because they said "oh its a gibson company just as good'' then i bought a entry level les paul and realized i had wasted 900 dollars on guitars that didn't have the tone i desired.... Because i thought i could get off cheaper and that i was smarter then everyone else.... Don't spend good money on fakes and sound alikes. Save your money buy the real thing its worth it, you will never regret it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigglesjets Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sorry I don't entirely agree ,Humm not wishing to fall out or get into a war over this but you have to remember that there are guys out there that cannot afford the "real thing" as we say, well the replicas and fakes are all real, and sorry but who has the authority to judge and say that Gibson guitars are the best. Look at Tokia, Jap copy thay are now collectors items, nobody calls them a fake, because they are now recognized as a good brand, but don't forget they are only far east copies, just like the one I bought from ioffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think you should play a real one and then see the differences. The difference with Tokai for example is that they never tried to sell themselves as Gibson guitars. Just a les paul alternative at a lower price. Counterfeiters aren't doing that, mostly because of 2 things: marketing means investing, and that's something they want to do as least as possible. Second, they don't build good guitars, and they know it, so they can't hope to compete with brands that have been around for years and have proven themselves to the costumer. I have tried some of those guitars and my 150 buck epi was better (not way better but it was better), now my gibbies are way better than my epi so where does that leave those fakes? I think Tom is right, if you spend money on those you are just doing that, spending it. If you buy the real thing you are investing, not because it will be more valuable in the future (because it wont) but because you are paying for something that will last longer and make you happier, will be of better quality and you will know is not a knock-off I also see your point: not everybody can afford one, but hey there are other brands out there (including Epi) that are better than knock-offs, while maintaining the low price and offering you more: a brand name backing them up, A WARRANTY, and even case candy (mex fenders and squiers come with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrd Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Sorry I don't entirely agree ' date='Humm not wishing to fall out or get into a war over this but you have to remember that there are guys out there that cannot afford the "real thing" as we say, well the replicas and fakes are all real, and sorry but who has the authority to judge and say that Gibson guitars are the best. Look at Tokia, Jap copy thay are now collectors items, nobody calls them a fake, because they are now recognized as a good brand, but don't forget they are only far east copies, just like the one I bought from ioffer. [/quote'] So go post in the tokai or ioffer forum with like minded individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigglesjets Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi Thundergod You have a some good valid points Mate , by the way I have 6 Gibson L/P's and 1 Gibson SG so I DO know how one plays thanks. Blackrd I am entitled to voice my opinions with out narrow sighted remarks being aimed at me, thanks! I didn't start this thread ,I just voiced my opinion , If you don't like it ,don't read it The problem with a lot of Gibson owners is they think they are above everyone else, and look down on anyone that has a dig at Gibson, or any guitar less than a Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi Thundergod You have a some good valid points Mate ' date=' by the way I have 6 Gibson L/P's and 1 Gibson SG so I DO know how one plays thanks. [/quote'] We need some pics then=p~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Surely its only a copy or replica if your buying one of these at these prices ' date=' It's only a FAKE if someone tries to sell you it as a Gibson at Gibson prices. anyone who thinks they are going to buy the real thing for $200 to $300 is obviously out of touch with reality.I own an original Gibson Les Paul but also have a Chinese 57 Les Paul Goldtop (replica) and 4 "Vintage" les Paul style guitars which all play as well as my LP original. Why is it if someone copies a gun its a replica,but when someone copies a guitar its a fake. Mmmmm! By the way I bought my 57 Replica from ioffer.com and I am stunned at the quality and playability of it.I have gigged it a few times and knowone has even spotted the difference Its a pity "Gibson" prices don't come back to reality. [/quote'] If you believe those guitars are even in the same ball park' date=' then I see no point in you spending your money on a fine, high quality instrument like a Gibson. You wouldn't appreciate it anyway. [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Blackrd I am entitled to voice my opinions with out narrow sighted remarks being aimed at me You seem to think this a democracy boy!!! Well i got news for your private this a dictatorship and i am the Dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 This thread makes me suspicious. I smell a plant. The plant is the one you're burning <G><G>... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Sorry I don't entirely agree ' date='Humm not wishing to fall out or get into a war over this but you have to remember that there are guys out there that cannot afford the "real thing" as we say, well the replicas and fakes are all real, and sorry but who has the authority to judge and say that Gibson guitars are the best. Look at Tokia, Jap copy thay are now collectors items, nobody calls them a fake, because they are now recognized as a good brand, but don't forget they are only far east copies, just like the one I bought from ioffer. [/quote'] Once again -- attempting to sell any fake as a *real* Gibson is the problem here. There have been fakes done with the Gibson logo that are replicas of original '59's, for example, and which are probably more accurate than any Gibson guitar has come. If these are sold as replicas, i don't see a problem. If you try to sell them as original Gibson guitars, there's a problem. I have no objection to people buying less expensive guitars, particularly those not carrying the Gibson logo. It's up to the user to gauge whether these guitars are better, the same or worse than Gibson in quality. I have several myself. But attempting to pass a fake/replica guitar with the Gibson logo on it off as a Gibson-manufactured guitar is against the law, and with good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom brown Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 biggles said'' gibson owner think they are above everyone else"". Cleary i said " because i thought i was smarter and could get off cheaper"..not smarter and richer...lol But you know its not even about that, its about the tone... I posted a carlos santana video from 1970 or so playing a les paul , and even though they did not technical knowledge and equipment they do now, the tone of that les paul stills comes right out.... And i am not saying this to be uppity, but i challange you to find a knock off, of epi, or any other that has the tone of a les paul......its not possible because i tried so many guitars... And as far as cost, i'll tell you a story...A dishwasher where i work came over and fell in love with my les paul....he had a epi (older one), and only a few hundred to buy one....I convinced him to save for a les paul, he collected empty cans for refunds, and i helped him.... then we went to GC and the les paul was on sale 699 , but he only had 500 and a beat up epi..After two hours they got tired and came up with a 50.00 dollar internet coupon and gave him 150 for a epi worth 50 on a good day. The moral of the story is be patient.... I spent a lot of money trying to save a few dollars, and it makes no sense beacause in the end i bought the guitar i wanted in the first place ...and have never had a regret......peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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