larryp58 Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Talk to me, guys. I just came in from my weekly practice, and tonight, we had an "artistic conflict". The situation: A "seasoned" bluegrass band. We're just smokin' tonight and one of the "origional" members wants to play classic country. The majority says screw the country, stick to bluegrass. I want to say "we'll play one or two" then back to flat-pickin'! But she won't budge. Have any of you ever been here? I hate this crap, ya know! I want to go home and just kick back and beat out some Neil Young on my Southern Jumbo! Frustrated to say the least! Aren't we musician's a peculiar bunch! What do you guys think?
ksdaddy Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 That's why I only play with myself. That didn't come out right.
larryp58 Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 That's why I only play with myself. That didn't come out right ksdaddy! I love you, man!!! :-
ksdaddy Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I love you too. That didn't come out right either.
Thermionik Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 ksd has a good point - soon as you start 'playing with other people' you have to compromise. The choice is yours, and only you can make it - is the music you want to play more or less important than the friendship with the person(s) involved. Like ksd - that is why I am the drummer, bassist, keyboard and guitar player. Have been known to sing too..... but we won't go there. Peace and Love.
ballcorner Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I recently bought a Fishman SoloAmp. Why? Well, because it is designed to make it easy for me to play gigs alone. I have had 20+ years of what you are experiencing and I can tell you it isn't worth it. If the band mate wanted to play country, why did she join a bluegrass band? I never go to a jazz player's house with a Telecaster, let's put it that way. I do realize that if your band sounds good you might not want to get rid of her. But, get rid of her anyway and get someone else who wants to play bluegrass.
larryp58 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Posted April 28, 2009 I recently bought a Fishman SoloAmp. Why? Well' date=' because it is designed to make it easy for me to play gigs alone. I have had 20+ years of what you are experiencing and I can tell you it isn't worth it. If the band mate wanted to play country, why did she join a bluegrass band? I never go to a jazz player's house with a Telecaster, let's put it that way. I do realize that if your band sounds good you might not want to get rid of her. But, get rid of her anyway and get someone else who wants to play bluegrass. [/quote'] I do play a lot of solo gigs. That's where I can play a lot of Neil Young, Eagles, James Taylor, etc. (stuff I really love to play). But the bluegrass thing is REALLY FUN!! I mean you can really rock when you get with some good players. If you like to go acoustic, ain't nothin' like banjos, mandolins, stand-up bass, and fiddles! (oh, and Gibson guitars!). You just hate the drama that comes with some people, ya know!
TommyK Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Talk to me' date=' guys. I just came in from my weekly practice, and tonight, we had an "artistic conflict". The situation: A "seasoned" bluegrass band. We're just smokin' tonight and one of the "origional" members wants to play classic country. The majority says screw the country, stick to bluegrass. I want to say "we'll play one or two" then back to flat-pickin'! But she won't budge. Have any of you ever been here? I hate this crap, ya know! I want to go home and just kick back and beat out some Neil Young on my Southern Jumbo! Frustrated to say the least! Aren't we musician's a peculiar bunch! What do you guys think? :P [/quote'] This is a democracy. Take a vote. Let the show of hands dictate. If 'she' want to leave, let her leave. She obviously is looking for something she ain't finding there. Everybody wins. You, on the other hand, need to decide to stay or bolt with her. :) What's she look like?
TommyK Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 That's why I only play with myself. That didn't come out right. Then you ain't playin' it right. :P
ksdaddy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Then you ain't playin' it right. I've been practicing since I was 11.
EdgarHF Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I play acoustic so I don't have to play in a band. The fact that I prefer playing acoustic music came later. I also have not played for money since the early 80's. If someone wanted to pay me enough to make a decent living then I would talk about being a human juke box. I am not holding my breath. I do not spend hours a day practicing so I can play 'Wish You Were Here' for a drunk falling off a bar stool. There is nothing wrong with playing that song if that is what I want to play. I just cannot see playing what someone else wants just to make 100 bucks or whatever the going rate is now. Meanwhile I will go back to practicing the Hookie Pookie.
Taylor Player Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Meanwhile I will go back to practicing the Hookie Pookie. What do you need to practice for that... it's pretty simple.... You put your right foot in..... You put your right foot out..... You put your right foot in and you shake it all about... (rinse and repeat with all of your apendages..)
G u e s t Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 . . Are the Hookie Pookie and the Hokie Cokie the same thing..... .....and supposing the Hokie Cokie really IS what it's all about. .
locogringo Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 What do you need to practice for that... it's pretty simple.... You put your right foot in..... You put your right foot out..... You put your right foot in and you shake it all about... (rinse and repeat with all of your apendages..) What if that really is what it's all about?
ksdaddy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Below is a 'copy and paste' that I offer with no shame or apologies. It's old and beat up but to this day I can't read it aloud to anyone without snickering and ruining the somber moment. Dance Inventor Dies What with all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it is worth reflecting on the almost unnoticed death, recently, of a very important person. Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote the Hokey-Pokey died peacefully at home. He was 93. According to a reputable source, the well-known participatory dance became popular in the USA during the 1950's. It originated in 1949, when Larry LaPrise, Charles Macak, and Tafit Baker created it as a entertaining novelty for the ski crowd at Idaho's Sun Valley resort. The trio were granted the copyright for an accompanying song in 1950, and Ray Anthony's big band recording turned the song and dance into a nationwide sensation. Hokey-Pokey appeared on the B side of Anthony's Bunny Hop single. Hokey-Pokey has virtually the same lyrics as the Hokey-cokey, a song and novelty dance which had been popular in England since the mid-1940s. In addition to the lyrics, the two songs also share similar dance moves. Specific body parts are named; these are sequentially put into the ring, taken out of the ring, and finally wiggled around manically inside the ring. There's a wonderful, summertime connection. Hokey-Pokey is New Zealand's national ice cream flavor: crunchy toffee in vanilla. In England, Hokey-Pokey is a traditional name for ice cream, probably originating from the Italian vendors who peddled their wares shouting, Ecco un poco ("Try a little..."). LaPrise's funeral was private, attended mostly by family and close acquaintances. The most traumatic part was getting him into the coffin. They put his left leg in...and then the trouble started.
Taylor Player Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 LaPrise's funeral was private' date=' attended mostly by family and close acquaintances. The most traumatic part was getting him into the coffin. They put his left leg in...and then the trouble started. [/quote'] I can't imagine why you would snicker Scott! ROTFLMAO!!!!
TWilson Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I agree with Tommyk - take a vote and if she comes out on the short end tell her you're really gonna miss her! And for ksdaddy: A father bursts into his sons room unannounced: " Didn't I tell you you'd go blind if you didn't stop doing that?" Son: " Hey, dad, I'm over here!"
EdgarHF Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I agree with Tommyk - take a vote and if she comes out on the short end tell her you're really gonna miss her! Then demand that the band becomes a Larry LaPrise Tribute Band
Jinder Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Every band has to be a flat-handed, palms-open democracy. I work largely solo but I do play extensively with a band, The Mercurymen, and luckily we get on fine. However, I've been in many other bands where I've cut and run at the first sniff of a diva. It just isn't worth the brainache. I would say, take a vote on it, and let the majority decision be the final word on the matter. If she isn't happy with it, she can always go Solo ;-)
G u e s t Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Well I got the popcorn ready and sat back to enjoy the skirmish..... In the RED corner - Jinder, for democracy and debate about the band's direction. In the BLUE corner - ballcorner, for dictatorship with a band leader who calls the shots. Then I realised - ballcorner changed that post to something much less heavy-handed, Jinder is way too cool to rise to the bait, and we're not in the lounge. Hey ho hum-de-hi..... Back to work
albertjohn Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I would recommend the Brian Clough approach when dealing with players who had an opinion which differed to his. "We talk about it for 20 minutes and then we decide I was right" Brian Clough - the best football manager England never had. (That's soccer.)
TommyK Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 I agree with Tommyk - take a vote and if she comes out on the short end tell her you're really gonna miss her! Ya know I think there's a song in there. Yup there is: Brad Paisley I’m Gonna Miss Her F# Bbm Well I love her B And I love to fish Db7 I spend all day out on this lake F# Db7 And hell is all I catch F# Bbm But today she met me at the door B Cdim Said I would have to choose F# Db/F Ebm Db If I hit that fishin hole today F# Db/F Ebm Db She'd be packin all her things B Db7 And she'd be gone by noon… (chorus) B Well I'm gonna miss her F# When I get home Db7 But right now I'm on this lake shore F# And I'm sittin in the sun B I'm sure it'll hit me F# Db/F Ebm When I walk through that door tonight Db7 B Yeah I'm gonna miss her Db7 F# Oh lookie there' date=' I've got a bite (solo) B F# Db7 F# F# A Bb Ebm Now there's a chance that if I hurry Db7 F# F#G#A I could beg her to stay Bb But that water's right Ebm And the weather's perfect Ab7 Db7 No tellin' what I might catch today… (repeat chorus) And for ksdaddy: A father bursts into his sons room unannounced: " Didn't I tell you you'd go blind if you didn't stop doing that?"Son: " Hey' date=' dad, I'm over here!"[/quote'] >Sp-p-p-p-p-p-p--p-pp-t-t-t-t-t!< DANG! I just gained my composure from the "Put the left foot in" line by KSDADDY and you just HAD to come up with that! Now where are the paper towels?
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