saunders Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I have been trying for a few days to find a resource that can help identify when and why the retail price for a Woody Guthrie Southern Jumbo dropped from $4226 to $3008. Can anyone shed some light on that subject? Are the guitars different? Why mess with the value of a guitar like that, especially one as fine as a WG SJ? What gives? ... Anyone?... Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 my guess is... they can't sell it. smells like a deal. offer them 2500.00 cash. times are tough but you know that. rare and desirable guitars on ebay are selling for half their original asking price. deals are there to be had if you're in the market. don't over analyze or fixate on one particular guitar. you can find more than 1 example of a certain model for sale. shop around. hope that helps a little. good luck in your quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcorner Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 As jannusguy says - these economic conditions dictate price deflation. When a guitar is a better price, it doesn't mean it is lesser quality -- it is usually a reflection of something being sold for its actual value rather than a perceived value. I am selling off almost all my guitars at the moment and I am achieving good prices, but only because the bulk of my collection is well known to people who have been playing on it for a period of time. If I had to go on the open market right now, I wouldn't be selling a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Thanks guys. You might be surprised by the market, at least on eBay. I have sold about 7 or 8 guitars in the past month. Some people try to give you the economic sob story in trying to get you to virtually give away a guitar, but overall, I have had decent luck. The trick is picking a guitar that will sell and free shipping helps. This morning I received an email from Gibson customer service indicating that the inlays and the pickguard had been changed in the Woody. He didn't say how, nor when. I dont know what they could do to a basic tiger stripe guard, but the inlays may be made of cheaper stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I haven't been buying and selling much lately. I've got some Indonesian thing on ebay right now that I paid $50 for (non functioning truss rod) and I threw it on ebay with a 99 cent opening bid. Crap shoot; the worst I can do is lose $50 and instead I might make $20 or $30. I don't see the prices dropping on ebay. There seem to be more tales of "I swore I'd never sell this but I need the money" but yet they have opening bids or Buy It Now prices at or above market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Be thankful that you can still get a Woody.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Lord yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaPic Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I have been trying for a few days to find a resource that can help identify when and why the retail price for a Woody Guthrie Southern Jumbo dropped from $4226 to $3008. Can anyone shed some light on that subject? Are the guitars different? Why mess with the value of a guitar like that' date=' especially one as fine as a WG SJ? What gives? ... Anyone?... Anyone?[/quote']I wondered about this too as I contemplated purchasing one. It seemed like one day the MSRP on the Gibson site was $4200+ and the next day it was $3008. Sometimes ya get lucky I guess. I bought one new through Guitar Center for $2100 and couldn't be happier with it. It was produced early in 2006 and the quality is top notch. Yes indeed thank God a fella can still get a Woody! Pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry K Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 An old Woody often sustains better than a young Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson101 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 An old Woody often sustains better than a young Woody. Insert Viagra joke here............................................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My notes decay quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 " It was produced early in 2006 and the quality is top notch." That is excellent news. Mine (on the way) was produced in March of 07, and I'll be checking it closely based on my recollections of my former '04 WG. That guitar was great for recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 The WG price drop was baffling considering it came from Gibson, often associated with greed and the home of eighty dollar T-shirts. No offense to you die-hard Gibson fans, but that is the perception among some folks based on the internet policy devised a few years ago, that and the shirts. Me, I am just coming back around and realizing that I need a slope shouldered Gibson, since it is the benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWilson Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Be thankful that you can still get a Woody.... Weeping willow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaPic Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I really like mine. The combination of short scale and round shoulder dread body really appeals to me and produces an excellent sound. Mine arrived new in the box with phosphor bronze strings. I gave them a couple of days and switched to 80/20s which I prefer. I wish I had been exposed to these Gibson short scale dreads a long time ago, I would have saved myself a lot of time and money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWilson Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hey Wily, get yourself a big woody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Weeping, you bet! Anyone got some spare Propecia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acousticat Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 No, but I had a dog once, he smoke then died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Insert Viagra joke here............................................................ OK.......here goes....There is a warning label on Viagra that warns against taking Viagra with Exlax......but most guys are like, "Well, easy come-easy go!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyc007 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Speaking of Woody, here is a free download of Wilco covering Guthrie in the suddenly relevant song "The Jolly Banker" http://beta.wilcoworld.net/guthrie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckomf Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 It was produced early in 2006 and the quality is top notch. Pic You got one of the last good ones. I hear that after 2006 Gibson started building a lot of their guitars with chambered bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saunders Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Well, an 07 WG touched down briefly yesterday and I must say I find distinctions between this factory floor job and my old '04 limited edition. It sounded good, no doubt, but the tuners were downgraded in addition to the case, inlay and pickguard. The finish as not as rich looking and the back had some markings that were not very confidence inspiring with respect to its ruggedness. Once you've experienced both types of WG SJ, the distinctions become apparent. Its a shame, because I'd hate to see these newer ones drag down the superior original run of WG's on the resale market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Sorry.....what is a chambered body????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Sorry.....what is a chambered body????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckomf Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 sorry. It was a joke for people who frequent the Les Paul forum. In 2006, most Les Paul models went from a weight relieved body to a chambered body. It's been the subject of heated debate over there for quite a while now. I just thought it would be funny, because obviously every acoustic has a "chambered" body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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