tlwwalker Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 My weekly trio sessions are a blast. We play for three hours. We have two accoustic guitars and a bass, and all three of us sing. We choose songs in our wheelhouse - ones that our level of talent/ability can manage. We try the usual formula : one sings lead/melody while the other two chime in on harmony/harmonies in choruses - a few duets. One guitar in first position, the other in third or fifth position. We work hard on our vocals. We polish a song and have a few beers. We have a really nice setup. We probably do not deserve the fine instruments we play. It includes a Zoom L-20 mixing board. It is a pretty sophistocated digital mixer and recorder. When we are ready, we record our efforts. It is a great immedate feedback tool. But it is VERY humbling. Any/all shortcomings are laid bare. Sure, we have plenty of moments that shine. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again. It is especially revealing when we isolate one channel on playback. Talk about walking around with your zipper down. When it is all played back together with EQ and effects, you can dress it up some. But, still...... It is a great learning tool and I am glad we use it. When you look closely in the mirror, be prepared for anything you may see. But we love doing this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 tlwalker, In addition to being recorded a few times during guitar lessons, I've been taped during the recitals I play in, and in every case, the results are cringe-worthy for me. How anyone could be play a musical instrument for as long as I have, and be such a shitty musician is truly astonishing, But like you, I play for my own amusement and enjoyment so will continue to keep on doing it. RBSinTo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I'm guessing that you are just being extra critical of yourselves. I mean, sure, if we compare ourselves to the people who do this sh!t for a living and practice/rehearse 8-10 hours a day, we will never match up. But for us folks who have real jobs and do this for pure enjoyment, I think we do pretty good. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Recording by yourself is even worse. When I'm in control of the record button, it takes me at least 10 more takes to get it right. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 My only issue with self recording is that, on the playback, I find out how poor my timekeeping is. LOTS of do-overs around here. 🫤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I don’t record myself. Then there is no evidence of how bad I am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, duane v said: Recording by yourself is even worse. When I'm in control of the record button, it takes me at least 10 more takes to get it right. The story of my musical life. Many times I never get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I don’t record myself. Then there is no evidence of how bad I am. Chief, A variation on the "if a tree falls in the forest" question. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil OKeefe Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/14/2024 at 7:55 AM, duane v said: Recording by yourself is even worse. When I'm in control of the record button, it takes me at least 10 more takes to get it right. It's super-hard to excel at "wearing all of the hats" at once that are required to self-record. You have to mind the technical (engineering) side while simultaneously serving as producer (keeping in mind the direction and flow of the recording sessions and the overall view of the final work, being the objective "ear," etc.), and at the same time, focus on performing at your best. Frankly, it's something that only a few people really do well, which is why commercial studios, engineers, and producers have not all totally gone out of business. When you let them/us handle those other aspects, you (generalized "you," not you specifically, Duane) can focus on playing and not have to worry about those other things distracting you from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) Music is an art form, and it’s also part of this thing called THE music business. Business is about $. Now as a fan of music there are albums I wish didn’t come out. Songs I would have told even my favorite bands/performers don’t record that. But I’m just a layman schmuck who loves music. As country artist today, Nashville is gonna tell you what they want recorded, and if you don’t like it, go down the street and see if Sony or RCA wants what you have. There is always gonna be a fan of Tay Tay no matter how bland and pop or commercial her music is. It just affects MILF’s and 13 year old girls a certain way down in their nether regions. People still listen to Garth Brooks. Why? Not sure. Even Kid Crock of S-hit had a career in music and dated Sheryl Crow. How many lame Rock band are still doing it? There is always gonna be a group, or performer someone loves. I’m a realist. After Going ForThe One, Yes were just awful. There is lots of stuff Zappa did I wish he didn’t. Zeppelin actually put out the album In Through The Out Door, cause we all needed a song to hold hands and roller skate too back in ‘79. There are probably 50 YT vids of phenom kids who can play Eruption to a T, but that’s it. They didn’t write it, and all they can do is imitate it. Think you can do what The Beatles did? I doubt it. Edited August 15 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 I'm lucky, my musical partner keyboards player is an LA recording engineer. All I have to do is play my part right and stay with the click. Musch easier said than done. Sometimes when he is singing I need to hit the record button. I sometimes manage to screw it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I’ve only been recorded in police stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Like Music, Recording is an Art. You got to put in your 10,000 hours for music. You got to put in your 10,000 hours for Recording. I’ve done that with both, maybe more, & I’m still far from satisfied. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 On 8/16/2024 at 10:42 AM, Larsongs said: Like Music, Recording is an Art. You got to put in your 10,000 hours for music. You got to put in your 10,000 hours for Recording. I’ve done that with both, maybe more, & I’m still far from satisfied. Gladwell, is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 On 8/16/2024 at 3:59 AM, fortyearspickn said: I’ve only been recorded in police stations. ahhh... I Got Them Remixed Alibi Blues! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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