hlarry14 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Has anyone here ever tried to play along with the recording of Bob Dylan's “Forever Young” - the acoustic version from the Planet Waves album? I have the sheet music (from “The Definitive Bob Dylan Songbook”). I've found some songs in that book where the printed music was in a different key than the recording, and that's immediately clear when I try to play along – the book is also pretty good about noting alternate tunings, etc. This particular song sounds close but not quite right – like maybe the recording was mastered at a slightly off speed? I've experience that before (with the Rolling Stones Beggars Banquet – mastered at an incorrect speed until the SACD hybrid re-master.) The Planet Waves disc I'm using is also a SACD hybrid re-master, and a couple of other songs I learned from the album (Going Going Gone and Wedding Song) sound right. Sorry if this is a dumb question – I've only been playing for a couple of years (started at the tender young age of 49) and playing along with records is as close as I get to playing with other people at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninblack Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I have nothing against songbooks per se. I own about 30 Dylan songbooks myself. They are nice collector's items with occasionally decent chord suggestions. If you are actually looking for accurate transcriptions of the songs go here instead... http://dylanchords.info/ The most valuable Dylan tab resource in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampa Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 That is a problem when trying to play along with a record, there could be a lot of factors to change the pitch. A famous example is Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue". Several tracks were recorded at a slightly wrong tape speed and when it was mixed it was played at the correct speed. The pitch was about a half step off or so. It was corrected on the new re-releases. I believe that there are some modern new digital stuff that can correct pitch but I'm not sure what it is. By the way, "Forever Young" is my favorite Dylan song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampa Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Oh, and another thing, Dylan had a habit of playing songs differently almost on a whim so the performance could be quite different from the sheet music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertjohn Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I used to play along to the version on The Last Waltz. I'm ashamed to admit I do not know the original. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgS6Gjz-WHk I've just watched this again after a few years. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 hlarry, welcome to the wonders of the studio mixing board, huh. I always sought & seek live versions of any songs when I was/am really into playing along with a recording artist, at least the odds are better. But, even that can throw you. The things technology can do. Sometimes I notice on my own efforts, if I go from an analog and then send the mix to Pro Tools there is the slightest unintended # as the end result only noticed if I play along once more right then and there. Plus, as grandpa mentioned, the "artist's nuance" in tuning & playing is sometimes a true part of the artist's style, Dylan lived it. Your concern on this one, is a problem we all will forever encounter from time to time. Right now, you play along with records, I play along with my own recorded tracks. Aint the real thing is it! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilliangirl Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I have a glass of wine and play along with this one, almost every day! (I only have the wine on the weekends, tho') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlarry14 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Wow, Karen - great video. I hadn't heard of her before - thanks. And thanks to everyone else (maninblack - that's a really helpful Dylan site!!) Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilliangirl Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Wow' date=' Karen - great video. I hadn't heard of her before - thanks. And thanks to everyone else (maninblack - that's a really helpful Dylan site!!)Larry[/quote'] Sorry, I just realized I was completely off topic here! Yes, that Dylan site is very good. Someone put a lot of work into that, and it's one of the few that have remained open, thank goodness. Forever Young is a great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCarlos Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Karen, Actually it was great that you went off topic. Now I have someone new to enjoy, Great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilliangirl Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Wow, Karen - great video. I hadn't heard of her before - thanks. Karen' date=' Actually it was great that you went off topic. Now I have someone new to enjoy, Great stuff. [/quote'] Hlarry14 and Don, I'm glad my inadvertent diversion worked out well for you both! Gillian's great. I will try not to hijack threads in the future, tho'. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchabalk Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 +1 dylanchords.info one of the best ways to spend the evening or weekend. even better to spend the (week) day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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