NeoConMan Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Democratic fundraiser convicted of corruption (But the Republicans are supposed to be the corrupt ones....) Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) - Longtime fundraiser Norman Hsu was convicted Tuesday of violating campaign finance laws in a case that became an embarrassment to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and other prominent Democrats he courted. A jury in federal court in Manhattan deliberated less than three hours over two days before returning the guilty verdict. Hsu, already jailed following an earlier guilty plea, showed no reaction as he was led out of court. "I think he expected it because it was quick," said his attorney, Alan Seidler. The lawyer said there would be an appeal. Hsu, 58, had been accused of using clients of his fraudulent investment business, including actors and other political novices, as straw donors to make thousands of dollars in campaign donations. The scheme was designed to bypass rules limiting the amount any single individual or group can donate. During the trial that began May 12, television actress Susan Chilman testified that she given nearly $42,000 to Clinton and other Democratic candidates. Once she took out her checkbook, Hsu would simply give her a name and an amount, then later reimburse her, said Chilman, who's had roles in "Brothers & Sisters," "CSI Miami" and "ER" under the stage name Susan Pari. Jurors also heard testimony from several other investors who recounted how Hsu showed off his political connections by decorating his home with photos of himself with marquee Democrats. One witness testified she met President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Clinton, President Bill Clinton, Sen. John Kerry, Sen. Ted Kennedy and Rep. Patrick Kennedy of Rhode Island at fundraisers she attended with him. Prosecutors played a voicemail recording of Clinton, then a senator, effusively praising Hsu for his loyal support. "I've never seen anybody who has been more loyal and more effective and really just having greater success supporting someone than you," she told him. "Everywhere I go, you're there. If you're not, you're sending people to be part of my events. You know, we're going to win this campaign, Norman, because you single-handedly are going to make that happen." After Hsu's 2007 arrest, the senator returned more than $800,000 to donors whose contributions were linked to him. The defense suggested Hsu was framed by "greedy" investors who cut non-prosecution deals with the government. His attorney argued his client's decision to plead guilty to separate securities fraud charges before the trial gave him credibility. Hsu's trial came just days after he pleaded guilty to 10 counts of wire and mail fraud, admitting that he cheated investors of at least $20 million in a Ponzi scheme. Sentencing was set for Aug. 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampa Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The Hsu case has been going on for some time now. The conviction is no surprise. As far as the crack about the GOP is supposed to be the corrupt party, neither party is supposed to be corrupt but they BOTH are at times. Corruption knows no political boundaries and both parties demonstrate their ability to be corrupted. If you read the news, this would be evident, politicians can be bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 plenty of dirty republicans and democrats. i dont think anyone really believes that the other party is the only one with corrupt politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsmile Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 oh yeah! they all are like that, no one can really say which is better or worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 80% of Dems are POSs 100% of the Repubs are POSs Play the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 2007 NEO? Did you just dig up some old Cat Sh!t from 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 "...No controlling legal authority..." who said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 He'd get Busy in a Burger King Bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 He'd get Busy in a Burger King Bathroom. If you were a conservative and you posted this picture and description, Moonie would have a conniption fit and call you a racist...what a crazy world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If you were a conservative and you posted this picture and description' date=' Moonie would have a conniption fit and call you a racist...what a crazy world we live in. [/quote'] There's nothing racist about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 If you were a conservative and you posted this picture and description' date=' Moonie would have a conniption fit and call you a racist...what a crazy world we live in. [/quote'] And if I posted it in the forum You'd come along Suggesting I'm a racist. Can't you come right out and say it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 And if I posted it in the forum You'd come along Suggesting I'm a racist. Can't you come right out and say it? I don't think your a racist. I've never called anyone on the forum a racist. I posted an animated gif of Obonga throwing money around and Moonie said I was a racist...You post whatever you want, I'll do the same...how's that work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 80% of Dems are POSs100% of the Repubs are POSs Play the odds. LMAO 80 percent of all canidates are corrupt 95 percent of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't think your a racist. I've never called anyone on the forum a racist. I posted an animated gif of Obonga throwing money around and Moonie said I was a racist...You post whatever you want' date=' I'll do the same...how's that work for you?[/quote'] Ok, I remember that, I didn't get the reference. I didn't think you were racist, then, I thought you were saying he spent money like a Gangster Rapper. I thought his head bouncing on that rappers shoulders looked funny, even thought I didn't think it was an accurate representation. I'm not a fan of the racist card and try not to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 As far as the crack about the GOP is supposed to be the corrupt party' date=' neither party is supposed to be corrupt but they BOTH are at times.[/quote']Neither is supposed to be, but the Defeatocrats fling accusations left and right.Few are valid, most are perpetuated. Corruption knows no political boundaries and both parties demonstrate their ability to be corrupted.I'm an Equal Opportunity kind of guy.They should ALL be jailed when their corruption is proven - I don't care which party. Defeatocrats because they think they're above it all' date=' and Republicans because the *** holes are in MY party.... If you read the news' date=' this would be evident, politicians can be bought. [/quote']Oh, I read the news. More than most people. i dont think anyone really believes that the other party is the only one with corrupt politicians. Really? 80% of Dems are POSs100% of the Repubs are POSs Okay Fenn... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 80% of Dems are POSs100% of the Repubs are POSs Play the odds. The odds are that you are a POS...Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Neo. Just to save a bunch of republican vs. democrats nonsense aimed at me. I'll just say there are only about 7 national politicians who I respect. None of them are from my own state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Neo.Just to save a bunch of republican vs. democrats nonsense aimed at me. I'll just say there are only about 7 national politicians who I respect. None of them are from my own state. Who cares what you respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The odds are that you are a POS...Just sayin' Was this a personal attack. What with the new rules and all I'd have figured you would be more respectful of your fellow forum members. You called me a POS. Even with the recent warning issued by Shadow. You really should be more pleasant. Can we be friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Look at my avatar pic, visualize the Muttley laugh with Homz standing there all pissed off.... Beautiful! Oh, play nice guys.... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Was this a personal attack. What with the new rules and all I'd have figured you would be more respectful of your fellow forum members. You called me a POS. Even with the recent warning issued by Shadow. You really should be more pleasant. Can we be friends? I've copied and saved all of your personal attacks against me and others, there have been MANY of them. You want to be friends? How about laying off the attacks? That would be pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I've copied and saved all of your personal attacks against me and others' date=' there have been MANY of them. You want to be friends? How about laying off the attacks? That would be pleasant.[/quote'] Post them and lets all see what the responses from your were or if we actually go the the beginning of the threads we will all see where, when, and what provoked them. YOU are not worthy of serious considerations of any kind. You are simply a bad person. Simple as that. Just saying. Note: this is not a personal attack it is a statement based on observation and interaction over many months. I've got plenty of saved posts too. You post yours first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I'll count to three and both of you post them at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Post them and lets all see what the responses from your were or if we actually go the the beginning of the threads we will all see where' date=' when, and what provoked them. YOU are not worthy of serious considerations of any kind. You are simply a bad person. Simple as that. [b']Just saying. [/b] Note: this is not a personal attack it is a statement based on observation and interaction over many months. I've got plenty of saved posts too. You post yours first. I think I'll not post them, you can use the search feature to find some of them, You weren't always quick enough to delete your threads and posts, you aren't half as clever as you think. With all due respect, your opinion means nothing to me. Some people would refer to you as an oxygen thief. Not an attack, just an observation, Comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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