Jasongd_5 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 So I'm curious. What new metal bands to you guys consider talented? but new I mean late 90's to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 None! Honestly, I just don´t like the type of music. But that is a matter of taste (and maybe of age). And if you like it, good! I think you wouldn´t like everything I like either. Greetings Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I don't remember reading any bashing ... or maybe I just don't read those posts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I don't remember reading any bashing ... +1 Jasongd_5 - Are you talking about the SG forum or somewhere on Gibson forums? Not my cup of tea, but I don't bash it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbomb76 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I'll man up to probably having bashed what people try to call "metal" these days...probably have a bazillion times. And I meant every word of it. :P Seriously, "metal" today has no balls to me. Scooped, detuned, compressed-to-hell and saturated/gated beyond Saturn just doesn't make something "heavy" or "brutal" to me. And even if there WAS any taste in tone that's not gonna' cover up bad songwriting and lameness. Even "black" or "death" metal nowadays is soooooooo cookie-cutter and silly. Of course when all my friends in high school were getting into the grunge scene and all I was diggin' on Tony Iommi (the friggin' KING of "heavy metal guitar"), and anyone who's ever seen AC/DC live knows there is NO band out there ("nu-metal" or otherwise) that hits as hard as they do. That said, I think if I had to pick bands from the last oh, say, 15 years that really have the magic and don't sound like what their peers and everyone else in music today is doing, here are the top 10: 1) Airbourne (yeah, they sound like AC/DC, but they do it well, so sod-off) 2) the Foo Fighters (aka: this Generation's Zeppelin) 3) Monster Magnet (ok, technically these cats were around since the 80's, but since YOU most likely never heard of them till "Spacelord" it counts!!! Pick up a copy of "Superjudge" and thank me later) 4)The (International) Noise Conspiracy (just awesome garage rock a la the Stooges) 5) Wolfmother (another Aussie band, but with a psychedelic twist) 6) 3 Inches of Blood (has a singer not afraid to sing higher-registers instead of the Cookie Monster vocals all the other lame-o's are using...plus they have an old-school metal flair that kicks a$$) 7) Jet (Kinks-meets-Who-meets-AC/DC...'nuff said) 8) the Donnas (all-girl cockrock...yeah, I know...but they're actually awesome live AND are nice to look at...win/win) 9) Avenged Sevenfold (one of the only newer shred-bands worth a dang, very "Maiden-y" in places....they're jerks sometimes, and not all their stuff is good, but they're worth a listen for sure) 10) Audioslave (till Chris Cornhole's ego f'd that one up too, anyway) H-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 foo fighters this generation's LZ? what drug would make someone so delusional? :-) in 20 years, no one is going to be calling grohl a guitar god who revolutionized rock music. they'll be saying what they say now : isnt he the drummer from nirvana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.E. Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 they'll be saying what they say now : isnt he the drummer from nirvana? Haha, that's pretty dern funny. I personally think he's a very good guitar player, but he certainly hasn't revolutionized rock and guitar-based music like Page. And as far as the Foo Fighters being considered this generation's Zep, it seems pretty impossible. For their group of hardcore fans, and even some of their a-bit-more-than-just-casual fans (which I consider myself), they can seem like it at times though. Oh, and as an obsessive Nirvanamaniac, I appreciate all Nirvana references on this forum, positive or negative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 3) Monster Magnet (ok' date=' technically these cats were around since the 80's, but since YOU most likely never heard of them till "Spacelord" it counts!!! Pick up a copy of "Superjudge" and thank me later) H-Bomb[/quote'] Ya F Ya. CLUTCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbomb76 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 foo fighters this generation's LZ? what drug would make someone so delusional? :-) in 20 years' date=' no one is going to be calling grohl a guitar god who revolutionized rock music. they'll be saying what they say now : isnt he the drummer from nirvana?[/quote'] I see things from a different perspective. Yes, I'm a guitarist, but honestly I remember Zeppelin for their SONGS and their gloriously-sloppy live show (even though I've only seen them on tape...they were long gone before I even was old enough to care), NOT for Page's guitar in particular. Not slamming him, he's a fine (studio) guitarist, and he wrote some of the coolest riffs ever. But most Zeppelin fans I know are more interested in John Bonham than Jimmy Page (and I agree with them...lol). He just never grabbed my attention the way Keith Richards, Pete Townshend or Angus Young do, whether it's the layers-upon-layers of guitars on the albums or his somewhat pretentious nature. So as far as a great (if not sloppy, just like LZ's) live show, memorable songs and a huge soundscape on the albums, yes, I stand by the claim that they do in fact hold the closest comparison to a "Zeppelin" of today. And even though my roots are FIRMLY within my AC/DC, Stones, Humble Pie and KISS heroes, I'd actually prefer to listen to the Foos live than Zeppelin, and I'm really only interested in Zep's rock stuff ---I can live without the strangely-tuned acoustic stuff (as a side note I love Deep Purple but can't stand Blackmore's acoustic crap either). There will NEVER be any more "revolutionary" guitarists (maybe revolutionary "effects" and whatnot), so I generally don't "go there". It's all been done, and most of the time what people consider "revolutionary" just...well...sucks. But FF, like Zeppelin did in their active years, comes and goes from radio popularity, has a lot of good "popular" songs but a ton of stuff no one has ever heard, and both have "legendary" history from at least one band member (Page/Yardbirds, etc and Grohl/Nirvana). Not comparing Apples and Oranges so much as comparing Red Delicious to Granny Smith. It's a whole new era after all, and we have no idea what the future generations will REALLY think when looking back on any of it. Zeppelin will be oldies and Foos will be "classic rock", then they'll eventually fade from existence till many, many years down the road when kids become interested in music played on REAL instruments again and someone finds one of those quirky ancient things called "compact disks" or something like that. Then the cycle starts anew. At the rate things are going and the overall decline of music (and TASTE in it), neither FF NOR LZ will have much clout with the younger generations, and that's sad. You want some REALLY depressing, suicide-inducing news??? I actually had a guitar student tell me he was into all kinds of "classic rock", like Godsmack, Metallica and even Stone Temple Pilots. CLASSIC "f****in" ROCK?!?!? Wow. I need a Rob Roy now. H-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 My classic rock is now on the oldies list. Just the way it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Robot Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 My classic rock is now on the oldies list. Just the way it goes. and you can now go through the CD discount bins and find something you like. But I keep my head down and avoid eye contact - in case people might think I am looking for Harry Balafonte CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickey Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Just about everything recorded today sucks--ESPECIALLY the country music. Rap & hip-hop isn't even worth commenting on, metal is silly and pretentious,reggae blows, and I'm not familiar with jazz, so I can't make a comment there. All of the best music came out on vinyl and is long gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 There is still a lot of good music out there it's just not on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickey Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 There is still a lot of good music out there it's just not on the radio. That is true;I was referring to the crap on FM--XM is where it's at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Haha...oh...your not worth it...muhaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiz Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Ya F Ya. CLUTCH. +1. I've been listening to those guys since around 1994. Some other recent metal bands that are good are: High On Fire, Valiant Thorr, Municipal Waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geff Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 But this is the SG forum. SGs are great rock guitars but the NUMETAL guys seem to prefer EMGs which tend to be on something other than an SG. SG players prefer tone over high gain, or at least that seems to be the prevailing opinion. EMGs tend to render the tonal qualities of the guitar to which they attached irelevant thereby making putting them on a guitar famous for its tonal qualities a waste. So it is no surprise that this is not the NUMETAL appreciation pages. It doesnt mean no-one likes it, it just isnt what people here want to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiJAMM Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Just about everything recorded today sucks--ESPECIALLY the country music. Rap & hip-hop isn't even worth commenting on' date=' metal is silly and pretentious,reggae blows, and I'm not familiar with jazz, so I can't make a comment there. All of the best music came out on vinyl and is long gone![/quote'] 311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswithesg Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Ya F Ya. CLUTCH. f'uck yeah clutch is the shi't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGman94 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 its pretty divided nowadays...nu-metal spelled with the U...are classified as rap/poser metal bands like korn, limp bizkit, and slipknot...garbage to say the least these bands need to die ESPECIALLY SLIPKNOT! New metal SPELLED CORRECTLY is the new generation of real metal, like a7x like hbomb said, you also have children of bodom, i guess bullet for my valentine, and lamb of god...these bands arent as good as the old school bands but theyre better than that nu metal ****...most new metal bands are influence mainly by the Thrash Metal era of the 80's that originally started to combat Hair metal,,,think of Nu Metal as the modern day hair metal but 1000x worse, but new metal also also keeps the nuance of 70's metal alive like sabbath, priest, and acdc, and the early 80's Iron Maiden, but more extreme Modern Death and black metal is mostly accomidated with Nu metal...listened to by posers, trendsters, morons, and emos, but NOT metalheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 its pretty divided nowadays...nu-metal spelled with the U...are classified as rap/poser metal bands like korn' date=' limp bizkit, and slipknot...garbage to say the least these bands need to die ESPECIALLY SLIPKNOT! New metal SPELLED CORRECTLY is the new generation of real metal, like a7x like hbomb said, you also have children of bodom, i guess bullet for my valentine, and lamb of god...these bands arent as good as the old school bands but theyre better than that nu metal ****...most new metal bands are influence mainly by the Thrash Metal era of the 80's that originally started to combat Hair metal,,,think of Nu Metal as the modern day hair metal but 1000x worse, but new metal also also keeps the nuance of 70's metal alive like sabbath, priest, and acdc, and the early 80's Iron Maiden, but more extreme Modern Death and black metal is mostly accomidated with Nu metal...listened to by posers, trendsters, morons, and emos, but NOT metalheads [/quote'] Actual todays death metal (some bands) are actual fighting nu metal...so cheers to those guys! Also nice post you no your metal! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.E. Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Just recently, I went with a buddy to meet and play with some pretty good local musicians. They're into the whole "Nu-Metal/Poser Rock" thing (Poser Rock: that's what I like to call bands such Three Days Grace and Breaking Benjamin. It's not because of their genre, but because they can't play worth anything live), and was asked to fill in for one of their usual three guitarists at a show. Their original stuff isn't half bad (Sex Pistol-esque actually, don't know where that comes from...), and I can definitely get a feel for it, but the majority of their sets consist of covers. They do mostly Slipknot, Disturbed, Seether, Breaking Benjamin, and Papa Roach, so I've been listening to and learning this stuff the past two weeks. It's so boring and repetitive! The lyrics are pointless, and the riffs, while maybe not "generic" to some of it, have no grit. All this leaving me to ask: what happened to Rock music? By the way, hbomb, love your opinions on this stuff man! I absolutely 100% agree with what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruliosis Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I can't even tell what band I'm listening to when it comes on. Everything sounds the same....the voice, the guitar, the exaggerated triggering. Nu Metal seems to concetrate on sounding heavy, rather than using heavy riffs. And forget this trendy Retro-Thrash garbage too. The riffs are recycled and unoriginal. They look like I did in my teens. And they even all sound the same. Not trying to be an elitist here, but when I used to hear a band's new song, I knew exactly who it was. Everything from the voice, the guitar(even the tone), and the drummers style. Not to mention people actually stood out as bass players. It all stopped around 91. Death Metal and Grindcore helped out a little in the 90's, but that was very short lived. It seems like the only bands that are making great new music are the older bands that are still around. I don't know what I'll do when Motorhead, ACDC, Megadeth...etc. are gone. Voivod are doing their last album(RIP Piggy), and that really bothers me. There's probably a lot of great bands out there that could be world shakers, but the record industry doesen't A. seem to know about them, B. doesen't want to risk losing money on something unique, or C. both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruliosis Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Metal nowadays is as bad as the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrosion of conformity Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Nu-metal has been a key influence in my guitar playing. A short list of some very talented modern metal bands that some would consider Nu-metal is as follows: Korn Slipknot Avenged Sevenfold (Synyster Gates is an insane guitar player, and he's in his early 20's, just imagine his talent in 20 years if the drugs don't get him by then) System of a Down (Daron uses an SG!) Bullet for My Valentine In Flames Disturbed (another Nu-metal band, very talented) Rage Against the Machine (I don't know if you would consider them metal, but I might as well put them on here) Linkin Park and a great many more that I'd post, but I think you get the point. Nu-metal is definatley different then what some of you might consider conventional metal, but to say that it is untalented is just not true. It's just a different style! you don't have to be an insane guitar player to make good music. To make good music is to make music that is enjoyable to hear, and it takes a lot of talent to write something that is enjoyable to hear! Even those who are complaining that modern metal doesn't have enough solos, just listen to some Avenged Sevenfold, In Flames, and Slipknot! They have some pretty nice solos in their music, and they're all extremely talented musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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