VBB Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I put my LP and my '61 Martin in a stand for a few minutes to take some pictures and restring both and now the neck (nitrocellulose laquer) has the bumpy melt rash where it sat against the foam pad. I don't want to refinish it, but anyone have luck making it smoother? Sanding? Polishing? Wear it down by playing over the next 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr newhaven Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 wow i have never heard of it happening that fast! i use athletic tape and i wrapped up the foam...but then i noticed the glue got on my nitro...and i just wiped it off... a few forum members just got some old towels and wrapped them in that... try that out so it doesnt happen again... now as for how to fix it?? that im not sure...if it happened on your acoustic take pics and post in the acoustic forum...a lot of pro's and refinishers roam that board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroadsnyc Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 For that to happen from a guitar stand would take a hell of a lot longer than a couple of minutes (particularly on TWO guitars) ... so, I guessing there is more to the story than you are telling us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I would say sand it, then put new finish on the sanded area. Sand and buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBB Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 Didn't mean to misslead anyone, but when I said a few minutes, it was more like an hour. I put them on the stand, took a series of photos from different angles and lighting (for insurance purposes, trying to get details and serial numbers) than uploaded the photos, picked the good ones, emailed them to myself (cyber space volt - better than a fire safe) and left one there while re-stringing the other. Just meant minutes, not weeks or months. And yes, it was pretty efffing fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 i covered my stand with pieces of guitar polishing cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroadsnyc Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Wow, that's really fast, man ... there are some good stands out there that will help prevent this in the future. I have a couple that I use that work very well. One is an Ultimate & the other is a Hercules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVeeWee Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 My luthier warned me about this phenomenon but it never occured to me it could happen that fast! Cover your stands up with some clothing he told me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmeds Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 In Dan Erlewine’s “Guitar Player Repair Guide”, he suggests smoothing out dimples and dents in nitro finishes by heating the area with a blow dryer or similar heat gun. Nitro finishes apparently can be smoothed out by carefully heating the surface as too much direct heat can cause bubbling and separation. I did this with some degree of success on one of my guitars and followed up with Meguiar’s Deep Crystal Polish. The results came out quite good and the dent is barely noticeable. Of course, YMMV. Play On! :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston004681 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I put my LP and my '61 Martin in a stand for a few minutes to take some pictures and restring both and now the neck (nitrocellulose laquer) has the bumpy melt rash where it sat against the foam pad. I don't want to refinish it' date=' but anyone have luck making it smoother? Sanding? Polishing? Wear it down by playing over the next 30 years?[/quote'] Woah! i've never heard of it happening that fast. My opinion is to just play it out, unless it's really bad. Anyway, i believe every guitar needs a story to tell. (that's why im against aging) Consider it a battle scar. ("...and this one is from the time i left it on the stand for a couple seconds...") That kinda thing. My guitar teacher has an old fender P-bass from the 70s. ALL beat up. He can tell you the stories. ("This one is from when the drubk dude came up and knocked the guitar off the stand, and this is from when my strap locks failed... etc.") He has a story for just about every ding. :- Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBB Posted June 4, 2009 Author Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks for all the input. I'll see if my camera can capture the ruff patch and post if it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston004681 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Wow' date=' that's really fast, man ... there are some good stands out there that will help prevent this in the future. I have a couple that I use that work very well. One is an Ultimate & the other is a Hercules. [/quote'] My baby lives in it's case. :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Didnt someone mention Naphthalene? ( Moth Balls )....to smooth out the finish? Anyone ever smell moth balls?....If so, how did you ever get their little legs apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Fortunately, nitro is fairly easy to repair, if you have basic skills. I don't know if there's any chemical remnants left from the stand (or if that's possible), but if there aren't, sanding it smooth, followed by a new coat of (thicker) lacquer, will fix it. Just sand it level and buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossroadsnyc Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 My baby lives in it's case. That's the safest place for it, but if you play gigs then you likely need a good stand or two. Also, taking breaks during practice (either at home or w/a band) requires the use of a stand as well. The case is good for transportation or while sleeping at night though. Anyway, those are just two that have worked well for me ... very sturdy and have been safe w/my nitro finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 White cotton. Cut up wash cloths or towels like I did - or cut a t-shirt into strips if nothing else. Any petroleum product will eventually react with nitro, some seem to be MUCH faster as you unfortunately discovered. I'm not an advocate of refinishing being performed by the unskilled, but the heat gun trick might work. Be patient with it, heat slowly, and then remove heat gradually. Let us know how it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 My baby lives in it's case. Yep...the one of only two places for mine... The other being in my hands.. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loneguitar Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Never heard of a stand doing that in an hour or a day or a week, that takes time. That said, I'd throw those stands away and get new ones, if this is for real then there's some sort of chemical in the foam padding on your stand, either that or you've been cursed by the Fender dark angel....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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