Boston004681 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Are these necessary? Thanks! I'm thinking about this acoustic-electric. http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Taylor-214E-Grand-Auditorium-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=514897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 The best bang for the buck is the Carvin AG100D.. Period. You can spend more, and get less, but it's a tough machine. I've beat mine up for several years. It is also good for spare stuff, if you know what I mean...... Homework is "your" job. Carvin has some tough stuff....... Best to ya. Murph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 This amp is awesome! http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product.asp?id=227 Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I think a lot has to do with your preferences in sound for an amp, frankly. I used the big old tube jobbie with two 12-inch speakers for two of the early Ovation electric acoustics. No problem. But then, it's up to you. I'd dial in a bit more mids and lows to the light strings I habitually use. Before that I'd used a Delux Reverb for the same purpose. Again, a single 12 and it sounded fine to me. I'd disagree a bit in terms of bang for the buck in favor of the Kustom. The less expensive of the two 30-watters (musicians friend has 'em) is easy to haul and, depending on what you're playing, has no problems with volume for me and I use humbuckers on my "electrics," still have both the nylon and steel string Ovations that are now over 30 years old, and also with a magnetic pickup-rigged 12 string acoustic. Sounds fine to me and has the advantage of two channels with separate plugs so you can do a mike in one side and guitar in the other. The less expensive one still has chorus and reverb, separate volume stuff per channel and even a little dial to cut the frequency where you may be getting the most feedback. FYI, in a saloon situation I've used the little Kustom and had no problems getting any of several humbucker electrics to sound quite decent and cut through the blast of bigger amps. Mine has the Celestion 10-inch speaker; I understand the newer ones have a different speaker, but still 10 inch. Personally I'd not care for the smaller speakers and I wouldn't complain were this to be re-rigged with something bigger if the box would take it... The Ashdown to me sounds ... I dunno, too metallic. The Fender just doesn't have the bottom thanks to the smaller speakers. One way or another, since I do occasional solo gigs, I like the small room, one amp, separate channels and controls for mike and guitar that I get in the Kustom - and that I got in the Delux reverb and even the big tube monster that seldom leaves the house. Heck, if you've got an amp you like, try it first. Mess a bit with the settings to see what sound you like in context with where and what you're playing.... Run it direct through the pa if you have one. Whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I have to disagree with you saying about the Metallic'ness of the Ashdown Milod my friend. Here is me using it live. To my ears it is very mellow and captures the real tone of what ever acoustic goes in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiZ7NC6ub9E&feature=channel_page Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston004681 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 The best bang for the buck is the Carvin AG100D.. Period. You can spend more' date=' and get less, but it's a tough machine. I've beat mine up for several years. It is also good for spare stuff, if you know what I mean...... Homework is "your" job. Carvin has some tough stuff....... Best to ya. Murph.[/quote'] Oh, sorry but i meant do you need them. can you use a normal amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Oh' date=' sorry but i meant do you need them. can you use a normal amp? [/quote'] No. An acoustic amp has a horn/tweeter, and is voiced for an acoustic. The Carvin AG100D has 100 watts, a 12/tweeter and digital effects. I've done acoustic solo gigs with mine in small clubs with just a line out JBL monitor, and the Carvin on a stand many times in clubs with 100/150 people. If you've never gigged "SOLO" in a bar, with an acoustic, you'll never know...... Nevermind..... You can use a normal amp...... Murph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 So would you use an acoustic amp for an electric that has one of those acoustic piezo bridges? Or a regular amp on a clean channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I have two 1970s e-a Ovations with the early bridge piezo. They work fine with whatever. It may take a different setting than an LP or whatever, or a soundhole pickup of some sort, or... Yeah... it works. We could argue about sound quality until the cows come home, but... whatever. I used my big tube job for years with the E-A boxes and now my "new style" acoustic amp with the humbucker guitars of various body configurations. Matt (Sear) loves his Ashdown. I don't like it. He's probably closer to "right" since he makes his living with his, but... I still think it's tinny. <grin> That may be my old man ears. I dunno. Maybe I want stuff more mid and bottom. I dunno. Pays yer money and takes yer choice. Just don't believe what stuff sounds like in the guitar store will necessarily be entirely what is heard on stage... or on another stage or... which is why some guys make a living out of running high end sound systems for big venues instead of the guitar picker just turning up his amp. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I have two 1970s e-a Ovations with the early bridge piezo. They work fine with whatever. It may take a different setting than an LP or whatever' date=' or a soundhole pickup of some sort, or... Yeah... it works. We could argue about sound quality until the cows come home, but... whatever. I used my big tube job for years with the E-A boxes and now my "new style" acoustic amp with the humbucker guitars of various body configurations. Matt (Sear) loves his Ashdown. I don't like it. He's probably closer to "right" since he makes his living with his, but... I still think it's tinny. <grin> That may be my old man ears. I dunno. Maybe I want stuff more mid and bottom. I dunno. Pays yer money and takes yer choice. Just don't believe what stuff sounds like in the guitar store will necessarily be entirely what is heard on stage... or on another stage or... which is why some guys make a living out of running high end sound systems for big venues instead of the guitar picker just turning up his amp. m [/quote'] Thanks milod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah, it's an old topic, but... heck the rules say you should oughta reuse a thread that's up if it is about your stuff stedda starting a new one. <grin> As for the topic... hey, when I got those early E-A piezo bridge guitars there really weren't any "Acoustic amps." Before that it was a matter of using a magnetic pickup with steel strings or some clip-on "microphone" (I still have one someplace) on a nylon string guitar. Hmmmm. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It also depends on the guitar - the Gibson J-160E like John and George used, though it looks like an acoustic guitar, is the same thing as the electric ES-125, electronically. It's just a flat-top with a round hole instead of an archtop with F-holes. I wouldn't put that through an acoustic amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah, there were quite a number of flattops with magnetic pickups, sometimes obvious, sometimes kinda intentionally hidden on the thing. Some had big volume and tone knobs... <grin> m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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