Rushview Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Heard it today from my local dealer. Apparently Gibson Custom Shop are currently "Concentrating on the new Angus Young model and Jimmy Page #2". No idea on spec/shape/colours/etc.. But I'm guessing a Billy Gibbons-esq Limited Run may be on it's way! EDIT 27/10/09 - Angus Young VOS in confirmed. Gonna be 200 in the world, 42 in Europe. Rumoured spec to be: Ebony F'board, Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Pickups, Angus Cherry Colour. All your for only £2999.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I want the new ****ing tony Iommi model already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I want the new ****ing tony Iommi model already! +1 i want the Toni Iommi signature with cross inlays back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushview Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 New details, see my Original Post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkEpTiKaL Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Rumoured spec to be: Ebony F'board' date=' Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Pickups, Angus Cherry Colour[/quote'] I honestly think this is how the original should be. Why make it a Limited Run.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds_wRap Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 If that didn't have someone else's name on it that sounds like my cup of tea. My dream guitar would be a Deep dark late 60's cherry SG with a maestro vibrola and a large headstock with the 60's body cut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurray Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I can't wait to see it. Will it be a Custom model or USA model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Why make it a Limited Run.. $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 bleh. VOS = Very Overpriced Stuff. I don't understand why putting VOS on anything instantly pumps up the price that much. All they have done is try to make it look like it's really 30 years old, and not brand new. I don't get the point at all. Do people want old looking guitars that much? I saw an ad for the 50th anniversary 59 les pauls in the latest Musicians friend catalog, and the big thing was owning something "just like the $100,000 59 lP but at a fraction of the cost" Yeah... ONLY 5-6K. reissues? MEH. VOS? MEH. Signature models? BLEH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushview Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 I can't wait to see it. Will it be a Custom model or USA model? Custom Shop Limited Run model. No word as of yet if there's gonna be a Billy Gibbons-esq Signed Edition and/or Aged Model. VOS = Very Overpriced Stuff. I don't understand why putting VOS on anything instantly pumps up the price that much. All they have done is try to make it look like it's really 30 years old' date=' and not brand new. I don't get the point at all.[/quote'] VOS doesn't actually put the price up, believe it or not it makes it cheaper most of the time. Take a '59 Reissue for instance, the Gloss Model is £3999, whilst the VOS is £3699. The amount of time buffing those 8 coats of Nitro' must take more time than doing the VOS, hence the price I would've thought. I'm still undecided about Limited Signature Models though, but I suppose at the quantities they make them in, 200-250, then who cares? There's enough AC/DC fans worldwide with £3k burning a hole in their pocket to sell more than double the amount of the guitars they'll make. But still, I don't think I would buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Cool idea but I already have an incredible SG!! tbonesullivan, do you even know the difference between Gibson USA and Vintage Original Spec? It has nothing to do with the aged look. Do people want old looking guitars? No, they just pay Tom Murphy $2,000 a pop for no reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Cool idea but I already have an incredible SG!! tbonesullivan' date=' do you even know the difference between Gibson USA and Vintage Original Spec? It has nothing to do with the aged look. [/quote'] as far as I understand it, it's the current incarnation of the "historic" and "custom authentic" lines. They are supposed to be made the same way and to the same specs as the "original" guitars that they are based on, even though back then was before automation, so all of the guitars varied somewhat anyway. They also have a non gloss finish that is supposed to be somewhat "aged" looking. The VOS line also (if im correct) comes from the Gibson Memphis custom shop, and not the Gibson USA factory. in the end though, I don't see how the price increase is justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 as far as I understand it' date=' it's the current incarnation of the "historic" and "custom authentic" lines. They are supposed to be made the same way and to the same specs as the "original" guitars that they are based on, even though back then was before automation, so all of the guitars varied somewhat anyway. They also have a non gloss finish that is supposed to be somewhat "aged" looking. The VOS line also (if im correct) comes from the Gibson Memphis custom shop, and not the Gibson USA factory. in the end though, I don't see how the price increase is justified. [/quote'] VOS refers to the finish/hardware aging only. no matter what any one says, its the truth. the only difference between a gloss 1959 historic reissue (R9) and a 1959 Reissue VOS is the the "aging." ....and the $300 upcharge. gibson actually charges you more for a shiny guitar. Historic guitars are made in the Nashville Custom Shop. as a rule, Memphis makes the non-Historic hollow/semi hollow guitars. the price is justified by what i see as a much better product. sure they're expensive, but the quality of the materials used and the craftsmanship is much better than on the USA line. obviously ymmv. and if you buy used, you can save a ton of cash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillybilly Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Heard it today from my local dealer. Apparently Gibson Custom Shop are currently "Concentrating on the new Angus Young model and Jimmy Page #2". No idea on spec/shape/colours/etc.. But I'm guessing a Billy Gibbons-esq Limited Run may be on it's way! EDIT 27/10/09 - Angus Young VOS in confirmed. Gonna be 200 in the world' date=' 42 in Europe. Rumoured spec to be: Ebony F'board, Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates Pickups, Angus Cherry Colour. All your for only £2999.99[/quote'] are these the specs for the actual custom-made SG he sometimes uses (ie Rock n Roll Train video)? otherwise that seems retarded given that his favorite SGs are late 60s i believe. Pearly pickups? how about something a bit closer to T-tops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Historic guitars are made in the Nashville Custom Shop. as a rule' date=' Memphis makes the non-Historic hollow/semi hollow guitars. the price is justified by what i see as a much better product. sure they're expensive, but the quality of the materials used and the craftsmanship is much better than on the USA line. obviously ymmv. and if you buy used, you can save a ton of cash....[/quote'] I would assume they are also made by hand. now, Nashville also has a custom shop? I thought the custom shop was in Memphis? All of the semi-holly bodied guitars are Gibson Custom, and I believe are made in Memphis. The Gibson USA factory is in Nashville, and doesn't make any semi-hollows, or am I totally wrong on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds_wRap Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 are these the specs for the actual custom-made SG he sometimes uses (ie Rock n Roll Train video)? otherwise that seems retarded given that his favorite SGs are late 60s i believe. Pearly pickups? how about something a bit closer to T-tops? The Pearly Gates looks like the best choice to me. http://www.seymourduncan.com/news/seymour-corner/seymour_duncan_7/ http://www.woodytone.com/2009/10/13/hells-bells-a-new-angus-pickup-sort-of/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushview Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 I would assume they are also made by hand. now' date=' Nashville also has a custom shop? I thought the custom shop was in Memphis? All of the semi-holly bodied guitars are Gibson Custom, and I believe are made in Memphis. The Gibson USA factory is in Nashville, and doesn't make any semi-hollows, or am I totally wrong on this? [/quote'] Every Gibson is made by hand, only very few machines are used, the most complex automated processes are the CNC machine which cuts the cavities for Chambered Les Pauls, and, if you can count it, the PLEK machine, which to be honest is a god send. As for production facilities, Gibson has four in the US. Montana makes the acoustic line. Memphis makes most of the Semi-Hollowbodies. The Memphis factory is considered a Custom Shop facility. It produces approximately 50-70 guitars a day. Nashville makes most of the Solid Body guitars (LP/SG). It produces approx' 650 guitars a day and is a 24 hours factory. Nashville Custom Shop is a separate entity to the Nashville facility, it produces approx' 65 guitars a day and is where Les Paul Customs/LP Historic Reissues (Gloss & VOS) and such. There are a few exceptions to where stuff is built, for instance the Les Paul Custom in Alpine White is made the Memphis facility simply because they're apparently better at spraying the White to a higher standard. The SG 1275 Double Neck is also made in Memphis. The CS-336 & 356 although they are 'Semi-Hollow' are made in the Nashville Custom Shop. I believe it is because they're constructed similarly to a Les Paul rather than a 339, as they a carved out piece of Mahogany rather than the Archtop style construction that the Memphis factory specializes in. The ES-339 '59 Historic VOS & Gloss models do come out of the Memphis Factory. Although I did hear a rumour that the '63 ES-335 Block Neck came from the Nashville CS factory, but I've not had it confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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