Californiaman Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 What's the difference between EL84 and EL34? My Fender Two-tone Custom Shop Master Built Amp has 12AX7s and EL84s. I know Bogner uses, depending on the wattage you want, EL34s (80 watts) or 6L6s (60 watts) in its Shiva amps. What's the difference? Can I put EL34s in my crazzy blues jr.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Wattage and physical size. EL-34s are much larger than EL-84s and won't fit into the same socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I think EL-84s are those little 9 pin jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermionik Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 . . Tonewise - EL84 much lower level, cleaner, ringing tone, EL34 louder and more mid grunt. OK, wait for it, here comes some smartass with the Ding Ding Ding comments and stuff..... . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The EL34 is an 8 pin (octal) tube which puts it in the same general family as the 6L6, 6V6, and KT66. In fact some octal based amps can alternate these tubes. My Uber Champ can run any of those. The EL34s are generally are crunchy with a lot of low end - not a soft sounding tube. The EL84 is a smaller and lower wattage bottle known originally for its use in Vox and Gibson/Epiphone amps of the 60s. These days it shows up in many amps of different makers and tonalities - so it is pretty versatile. Pushed hard it gets a great compressed mid range and top end - that singing tone. It does not have the low end of an EL34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 EL34: http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/show.php?des=EL34 EL84: http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/show.php?des=EL84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikko18 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What's the difference between EL84 and EL34?My Fender Two-tone Custom Shop Master Built Amp has 12AX7s and EL84s. I know Bogner uses' date=' depending on the wattage you want, EL34s (80 watts) or 6L6s (60 watts) in its Shiva amps. What's the difference? Can I put EL34s in my crazzy blues jr.? [img']http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj438/Californiaman5/53110020.jpg[/img] What is your crazy blues jr.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 well Caliman.. I'm tube ignorant but I have to comment on the ES That thing is beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californiaman Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Thanks Dom. It's a 1988 with mahogonay back and sides. Nikko, my crazy blues jr. is a limitted run amp from Fender. It's actually called a Two-tone Custom Shop Master Built 15 watt amp. No where has it ever officially been called a Blues Jr., but that's exactly what it is. For years many people have said that Fender needed to take the BJ and put it in a larger cabinett. This cabinett is solid pine and large enough for the 10" and 12" specially designed Eminence speakers. It roars for 15 watts. The mids and highs are exactly why I like it so much. It is a great amp. I'll probably never get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The EL34s are generally are crunchy with a lot of low end - not a soft sounding tube. Yar! That's why I likes 'em in me Mesa Stiletto Deuce! Take no prisoners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Now that everything's been said by Rich I can jump in just to say "Caliman, what a sweeeeet amp!"=p~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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