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If it's still available, I will go out and do a test drive! I may have to sell the J-185, as much as I love the sound. It has a larger neck than Magic and it throws me way off when I'm picking. You wouldn't think such a small amount could make such a difference, but it does. The more complicated the playing, the more it matters what the neck size is, for me anyway.

1975 J-55

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If it's still available' date=' I will go out and do a test drive! I may have to sell the J-185, as much as I love the sound. It has a larger neck than Magic and it throws me way off when I'm picking. You wouldn't think such a small amount could make such a difference, but it does. The more complicated the playing, the more it matters what the neck size is, for me anyway.

1975 J-55

 

play it first. i playeda '71 recently and it was most unremarkable.

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If it's still available' date=' I will go out and do a test drive! I may have to sell the J-185, as much as I love the sound. It has a larger neck than Magic and it throws me way off when I'm picking. You wouldn't think such a small amount could make such a difference, but it does. The more complicated the playing, the more it matters what the neck size is, for me anyway.

1975 J-55

 

 

Funny isn't it

 

"The first cut IS the deepest"

 

For you it's Magic

 

for me a 79 Norlin J45

 

If you lived around the corner N!k and I would fight ya for the J185!

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Hey Karen,

 

You know all "the stuff" -- Norlin era, overbuilt and overbraced, etc., etc.

 

So take it for a test drive and see.

 

Most of the '70s Gibsons I've tried were as cunk said, "unremarkable", perhaps "unworthy" would be appropriate.

 

But you never know what you'll find!

 

Fred

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That's what we are living for, Karen.

Go & check it out.

These are instruments.

They produce sound.

If you prefere that sound - just do what you have to do.

Go for YOUR PERSONAL SOUNDING GUITAR.

 

For me - I know allready - I will never leave M-R GIBS till the end of my life, for HE is produsing the SOUND I need for a steumming guitar.

And now after the set up he is brilliant for fingerpicking too.

 

Oh... And I whish you THE VINE #-o

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I really do not mean to be negative but after playing more 1970s Gibsons than I care to remember, I think the Norlin-era guitars deserve every bit of their rather bad reputation.

 

Yeah, the neck on that '75 will be pretty thin. But I swear those 1970s guitars have the bulkiest, heaviest top bracing in the history of Gibson. In 1971 Gibson (which had already gone to a much bulkier bracing in 1969) actually started using an even more brutish Double X bracing system. Means the guitars are built like a tank but unfortunately top flutter is pretty much non-existant.

 

But as someone said, sound is a pretty subjective thing. Just saying do not be swayed by the thought of owning an "older" Gibson.

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It has a larger neck than Magic and it throws me way off when I'm picking. You wouldn't think such a small amount could make such a difference' date=' but it does.[/quote']

 

That's one reason I don't mess with my Tele anymore. The different scale WILL throw you off.

 

As a gigging electric lead player, long jumps become normal, until you change the length of the neck........

 

:D

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As a Martin player, I never was impressed with the newer Gibsons I tried. Then I found my '74 J-50 and it is the Gibson that did it for me. It might not move most Gibson lovers, I don't know. All I know is that I love the tone. I have heard others with 70's models say the same. I played a friends '70 J-45 and didn't like it at all. IMHO, I'd definately give it a try. You never know what you might find.

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Hey Karen! You know what I tell you comes from the heart. As others have said, PLAY IT FIRST!!! Then decide if you want it. Those '70 models were indeed a different beast. I'd hate to see you lose a treasured guitar for something new that just doesn't work out tonewise. Tread lightly, Sweetheart!!!

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Yes, I'm not expecting it to be good, but I'm keeping an open mind. The only Norlin guitar I've played is an Epiphone Caballero, weird thing, sort of a yellow colour laminate, with a fret at the nut. The thing was awful to play and sounded worse. [-X But I know there's some good ones too!

 

The guy has not emailed me back so maybe it's already gone. :-(

 

John, you're right about the first cut. When I play the J-185, it sounds so good, but takes awhile to get used to it and it never plays as well as Mag. Then when I get back with Mag, I have to readjust and it's frustrating. Larry, don't worry. I will not act hastily. I'm even considering getting a custom done now. It will be hard to part with Lily if I do, but if I can't play it, I can't play it.

 

ES, I will let you know if I decide to sell.

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Although not an acoustic, my '79 "Norlin" SG is a flame thrower.

 

Perfect guitar, and tons of mojo.

 

Not all Norlins are bad. 10K will not buy this guitar.

 

A book will tell you it's worth $400.00.

 

Bite me, book.......

 

[-o</

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Although not an acoustic' date=' my '79 "Norlin" SG is a flame thrower.

 

Perfect guitar, and tons of mojo.

 

Not all Norlins are bad. 10K will not buy this guitar.

 

A book will tell you it's worth $400.00.

 

Bite me, book.......

 

:D/ [/quote']

It's acutal $900-1000 now. [-o<

There are alot of gems in the norlin guitars...but alot of **** in there to. Like a junkyard!

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Yes' date=' I'm not expecting it to be good, but I'm keeping an open mind. The only Norlin guitar I've played is an Epiphone Caballero, weird thing, sort of a yellow colour laminate, with a fret at the nut. The thing was awful to play and sounded worse. =D> But I know there's some good ones too!

 

The guy has not emailed me back so maybe it's already gone. :-(

 

John, you're right about the first cut. When I play the J-185, it sounds so good, but takes awhile to get used to it and it never plays as well as Mag. Then when I get back with Mag, I have to readjust and it's frustrating. Larry, don't worry. I will not act hastily. I'm even considering getting a custom done now. It will be hard to part with Lily if I do, but if I can't play it, I can't play it.

 

ES, I will let you know if I decide to sell.[/quote']

 

GG There are many many J 50s of the late 50s and mid 60s out there . Some just like Gillians in the $2000 range Id wait and get an earlier one.! There a good buy and investment right now. For my money they sound so much better. My 2 cents. =D>

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Subu, I was watching one J-50 on eBay recently. It was all original, just a beautiful thing. It just sold for $3979.00 or something like that. They are still commanding a hefty price. I'll keep watching tho'.

 

By the way, that Cowboy Junkies cd is sooooo nice.

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I had one of the in 1986. You wont have to worry about over buit bracing on the back - because it dosnt have any!! Remember that the back is arched and laminated. Actually quite nice. It was very similar to the Gospel but mahogany instead of maple. It was a nice instrument. I dont however, think I would trade or sell a J-185 for it though. Try it out for sure though. Thats the best way to decide.

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Although not an acoustic' date=' my '79 "Norlin" SG is a flame thrower.

 

Perfect guitar, and tons of mojo.

 

Not all Norlins are bad. 10K will not buy this guitar.

 

A book will tell you it's worth $400.00.

 

Bite me, book.......

 

:-/ [/quote']

 

 

The Norlin-era electrics are actually quite a bit better thought of than the acoustics - if ya can forgive them that humongous Lester headstock and volute.

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I need to find out where those folks selling even well played late 1950s J-50s for $2K and buying mid-1970s J-50s for $4K are. Based on what I can pick the Norlin-era guitars up for and get for a 1950s J-50' date=' I could pocket about $4K on just two sales at those prices.

 

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No no, Zomby, the one on eBay that went for almost 4 thousand was a 1955, all original, in immaculate condition! Sorry, I realize my post was misleading.

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