EADGBE Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 That's what I was recommended when I asked for a more articulate (Les Paul sounding) neck pickup for my SG faded. Or should I first try coil splitting the 490 neck pup? What do you think? More singing humbucker sound would be nice, but I'll definitely try the coil splitting after I heard some demos of the Les Paul Traditional Pro w split coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The 490Ts that are stock on the faded are 2 conductor versions. they cannot be coil split without taking them apart and rewiring them. coil splitting is nice but unfortunately most humbuckers were designed with their humbucking pickup sound in mind. You might want to check out the seymour Duncan P-rails pickup. the demos I've seen of it have been awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The faded special has a harsh sound to my ears. Even the neck pickup seems bright and harsh when compared to the standard or '61. Isn't it the same neck pickup as the one on the standard? Is it the cover that makes the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumrnmuzik Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I've tried the P-Rails, splitting the neck and bridge, but I though that they were a bit muddy. Personally I found, (can I say this here?), the Ibanez Super 58's to be the cleanest ones yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EADGBE Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 I read somewhere that coil split works best with high outputpickups? Would I be better off by having the series/parallel switch instead of hunbucker/single coil switching? The ultimate goal would be having a Les Paul/Strat switch on an SG neck pup;) EADGBE ps. I've been running in guitar shops lately and the Les Pauls and Strats just don't feel right. That's why I'd prefer trying to refine the sound of an SG as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Robinson Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The 490 r is the factory provided neck pickup on the standard and it is pretty good . My own choice would be a classic 57 pickup which many people use in their SG. Im sure the SD Jazz will sould great but at the end you own an SG not a Les Paul and they do sound differently ( although nobody but you will notice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Robinson Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I think youve got completely the wrong idea about Coil Splitting .Many guitarists have great articulation using humbuckers and do u know most guitars that have coil splits have a significant drop in volume when they use the coil split ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 ALso... the 490R is the same neck pickup on a LOT of les paul guitars out there. The les paul Studio line, the Les paul Supreme, and Les Paul Custom all use the 490R 498T as the stock combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 The ultimate goal would be having a Les Paul/Strat switch on an SG neck pickup Split humbuckers can be useful, but in single coil mode there isn't the character of a P90 or Strat pickup. For a while I wired my Les Paul so that as the tone controls were turned to zero, the inner coils were sent to ground. My SG was wired for a long time with a series / parallel option. With the neck pickup in parallel, it gave a Fender character - Hendrix / SRV tones were available. Not as good as the real thing, but a surprising shift in character going from Bridge humbucker to neck in parallel. It sounded like I'd switched guitars - fast ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EADGBE Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Split humbuckers can be useful' date=' but in single coil mode there isn't the character of a P90 or Strat pickup. For a while I wired my Les Paul so that as the tone controls were turned to zero, the inner coils were sent to ground. My SG was wired for a long time with a series / parallel option. With the neck pickup in parallel, it gave a Fender character - Hendrix / SRV tones were available. Not as good as the real thing, but a surprising shift in character going from Bridge humbucker to neck in parallel. It sounded like I'd switched guitars - fast ![/quote'] Sounds good! You mean you had a push pull pot for switching the neck pup series/parallel? Actually I like the 490R but you can always ask for more... The local luthier recommended Duncan Jazz for articulate tone, but also said that he can solder the extra 2 more conductors to my stock 490R pickup if I want to split that. Anyway I need 4 conductors for series/parallel too, don't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Yes, it made the SG more versatile, but bear in mind with parallel that there will be a volume drop ( it suited my style to drive the amp less for the Fendery sounds). I had 2 switches fixed to a plate that was on the back of the guitar and held on by tape - it started off as an experiment, and I ended up leaving it there ! I didn't want to drill any holes in the body. Yes, you will need 4 conductors for all the options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIANTRobOT420 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 How bout the Jimmy Page wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumrnmuzik Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yes' date=' it made the SG more versatile, but bear in mind with parallel that there will be a volume drop ( it suited my style to drive the amp less for the Fendery sounds). I had 2 switches fixed to a plate that was on the back of the guitar and held on by tape - it started off as an experiment, and I ended up leaving it there ! I didn't want to drill any holes in the body. Yes, you will need 4 conductors for all the options.[/quote'] I've always wanted to mount some Strat pups on an SG.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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