Gibson CS Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2481384 Craig Anderton wrote: As many of you know, I've been a big fan of both the Gibson Digital Guitar and of course, the Dark Fire. I was involved with Dark Fire in terms of doing presets for Guitar Rig, beta-testing the guitar itself, and working on the documentation; as that worked out well, I've become a sort of "outside objective person" for Gibson's high-tech guitar efforts. Well, I was invited to Los Angeles at the beginning of October to be part of a focus group consisting of a bunch of guitar players like Zakk Wylde, Dean Parks, Steve Lukather, Alison from the Donnas, Rich Fortus and DJ Ashba from Guns 'n' Roses, etc., to check out what Gibson was going to do next. The guitar is called Dusk Tiger and while I don't have a ton of firm info on it yet, I do have some pictures (see attached) and Gibson is okay with me posting them here as a "sneak preview" to all you high-tech axe slingers. It's still under development and I don't want to say too much, as features and specs are always subject to change. But basically, it builds on Dark Fire with many of the same features (Robot tuning, hex outs, RIP interface for use with computers, Chameleon analog tone technology, no digital modeling, bundled software, etc.) but with a simplified user interface. It has a different look compared to Dark Fire - reflective pickguard, somewhat different body shape, and an overall less "traditional" vibe than the DF. I played a prototype and it feels great. The electronics are a bit more streamlined compared to Dark Fire (e.g., less current consumption, replaceable battery) but the functionality is pretty much the same. Some of these changes may allow bringing in Dusk Tiger at a somewhat lower price than Dark Fire, but we'll see...lots can happen between design and production. If you have questions I'll try to answer them but don't want to violate any confidentiality issues ("What?!? You told them about the anti-gravity flux transformator?!?") so please understand if I have to say "no comment" from time to time. I guess one obvious question is "So does this make Dark Fire obsolete?" to which I would say no. I have a great Dark Fire setup, the hex patches are tweaked for it, it plays like a charm, and I can't see giving that up. Dusk Tiger has some tweaks to the electronics that give different sounds, so I'll probably come up with a tweaked set of patches for it as well. What I expect based on what I've seen so far is that I'll use both guitars, but for different applications. I'm assuming that as time goes on, for some projects I'll reach for the Dark Fire, and for others, I'll reach for the Dusk Tiger...we'll see. I'll keep you posted as much as I can, but it took a little arm-twisting to be able to post this info so I don't want to overstep my bounds . However, I really do appreciate that Gibson understands the importance of this forum enough to let me break the news here. These high-tech guitars have really changed how I play, the way I record, everything...it'll be interesting to see how Dusk Tiger progresses over the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 holy crap Take out all the techy junk and oooo thas nice, unles those are EMGs. Then switch them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigr726 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Personal opinion- that thing is hideous! Glad I got the DF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niemepet Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I think it looks cool. Maybe because I like KOA guitars also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max2343 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Are Those Pickups EMG's and Will They Ever Use Exotic Woods Like KOA Wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Interesting how they have an inlayed top control plate ...looks from the pictures it will have threaded inserts for the screws. This will make control modifications and upgrades not as damaging or permanent to the guitar and allow for different layouts of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibs0n Silverburst Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 unles those are EMGs. Then switch them out. Amen! This should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I love the way the guitar looks BUT I hate that pickguard and the fact that you cannot just take it out. Why did they design it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIANTRobOT420 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think its badass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yet more goofy bahstid stuff. Why on god's green earth would they put all that electronic crap on there but leave the same 1939 neck heel and NOT put a tummy cut on the back of the stupid thing? Why not put the Axcess neck heel and a nice deep tummy cut on it to make it more hospitable to play? Someday a Gibson designer is going to decide he's low on oxygen and there's going to be a big popping noise when he pulls his head out of his rear end. Maroons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 And what is it with all the over-the-top names? Dork Fire, Duck Tiger. Geez. Ninja Pigeon is up next. One could *wish* that these guitars were even close to being techno wonders. The Dark Fire was a disaster of a guitar, the styling silly, the electronics begging to be replaced from the first get-go, the user interface amazingly complicated for simple pickup switching, the robot tuners incapable of doing a large number of useful alternate tunings without a string change. Dusk Tiger -- yet another candidate for the Wall of What Were They Smoking When They Came Up With This Guitars. Gibson, there IS technology out there. You COULD be using it. But your design team is mired somewhere between walkers and whacko, between geriatric and gonzo. It's neither right nor left brain -- more along the lines of brain stem. Keep at it, though -- you guys are gonna fight yourself right into the 21st century, just about the time that we're leaving the 22nd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 And what is it with all the over-the-top names? Dork Fire' date=' Duck Tiger. Geez. Ninja Pigeon is up next. One could *wish* that these guitars were even close to being techno wonders. The Dark Fire was a disaster of a guitar, the styling silly, the electronics begging to be replaced from the first get-go, the user interface amazingly complicated for simple pickup switching, the robot tuners incapable of doing a large number of useful alternate tunings without a string change. Dusk Tiger -- yet another candidate for the Wall of What Were They Smoking When They Came Up With This Guitars. Gibson, there IS technology out there. You COULD be using it. But your design team is mired somewhere between walkers and whacko, between geriatric and gonzo. It's neither right nor left brain -- more along the lines of brain stem. Keep at it, though -- you guys are gonna fight yourself right into the 21st century, just about the time that we're leaving the 22nd...[/quote'] No many know this. But before coke realsed the first wave of coke shipment to the world. They went to this small town in texas and gave it to everyone try...it was horrible. Coke had to re thinking everything...came up with new flavor then went back to town and they loved it. See...you always gota give everything in life two chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIANTRobOT420 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 ^Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowb5str Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Two problems with the teaser photos: I cannot tell what the pickups are, and I cannot see the neck well enough. I like the body, and I can deal with the controls just fine. I would like a test drive, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Originhelsoul Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Very cool!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Utterly r i d i c u l o u s. I thought we'd seen a new low a month or so ago with that Hendrix abomination, but was apparently mistaken. Hope there's a lot of warehouse space for all of these idiotic guitar concepts that will never sell... Please stop the madness and get back to making something somebody is actually going to want to buy and play! And regarding the Coca-Cola reference above - remember "New Coke"? I didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raine Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Some info find on web: Flat top made from an exotic hardwood beaming with golden, amber, and dark chocolate hues Tone-chambered back, and a unique new pickguard and control layout Programmable active four-band parametric EQ systems for both the magnetic and the piezo pickups, which allow infinite fine tuning of your tone Switchable LP-Z High Definition Impedance circuit (low impedance capabilities) built into improved Neutrick jack with both ¼” and XLR outputs http://www.gear-vault.com/innovative-gibson-dusk-tiger/ http://www.gear-vault.com/gibson-dusk-tiger-news/ I knew the news of a new guitar "robot" that staff whispered Gibson, I do not like the look, I prefer that my dark fire .. Styled like me came to mind when seeing is that the "Recording". Now waiting and see "new" possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=332565post332565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Donn_Vine Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I like the new "paint job" or lack there of but the chrome needs to go the thing that drew me to the dark fire was the fact that it just looked sexy and was dark whens the Dusk Tiger looking at being released? For you few individuals who deem it nessecary to Complain about how a well established company makes their products, well let me just say this IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT GIBSON DOESN'T MAKE THEM "YOUR" WAY THEN GO BUY A ******* FENDER. I didnt know the name of the forum or topic in which we are in states come B*tch about how a major company makes their guitars because I ran out of tampons last night. Apparently Gibson is doing something right because they are still in bussiness, what guitar company do you own?? how many famous musicians play your guitars? oh you dont own a guitar company and no one? o thats what I thought. Oh and by the way if you love the les paul look go to Warmouth.com and make a custom guitar and you can bastardize the **** out of any guitar you want so you can have your tummy cut (honestly if you need a tummy cut I think you should stop complaining about guitars on the internet while drinking tons of beer and go running fat a**) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Utterly r i d i c u l o u s. I thought we'd seen a new low a month or so ago with that Hendrix abomination' date=' but was apparently mistaken. Hope there's a lot of warehouse space for all of these idiotic guitar concepts that will never sell... Please stop the madness and get back to making something somebody is actually going to want to buy and play! And regarding the Coca-Cola reference above - remember "New Coke"? I didn't think so. [/quote'] New Coke? Isnt that the 80's? Im talking about before Coke came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 UGLY. Wtf is with that stupid chrome sh!t... Take the chrome off and it's pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Clearly the "New Coke" reference was lost on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MI_Canuck Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Pretty sweet looking guitar IMO!! Definitely something different peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Ashby Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I love my Darkfire,and have to say,the Tiger has grown on me and I thinks its cool.Now for everyone complaining about how ugly ect.Why not just try building your own guitar,if everyone is so unhappy with gibson,dont buy!!Come on,quit *****ing and move with the times.These guitars cant be judged by pics alone,try one out and your opinion might change.Its a porno guitar for guys like me with big kahunas!!!Take care everyone,Merry X-mas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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