mr newhaven Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 ok folks... so ive had a few days with my LG-2 3/4 and i love it! its just so much fun to play... simply put im very happy i bought it and i think finally my gas has subsided... for now that is...i still need a j-45 but thats a different thread... ok so i hear alot of you folks RAVING about Mr. Colosi's work! i took a look at his website and i agree...the man sure knows how to make a saddle! here are my questions to the more informed... first off im sure i have a bone nut and saddle on my gibby... would i benefit from switching out that bone for ivory? (even if its just more sustain?) secondly i have PLASTIC endpins and i hate my strap button...(its just a screw encased in some plastic as well...) would i benefit sonically at all from changing my pins? and if i change my pins am i better off with ivory? or bone? etc... lastly...Colosi can do it all...i see that now...what are everyone's experiences with him? especially cause Im a Yankees fan and probably will mention it to him in conversation! thanks for the help ladies and gents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkharmony Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 would i benefit from switching out that bone for ivory? (even if its just more sustain?) Possibly. I have some recent experience here. The jump from plastic to bone is a huge difference. The difference between bone and ivory is not so drastic. Much subtler and is really more about overtones' date=' a bit of sustain. Having just installed my first West African Hard Ivory saddle from Mr. Colosi last week, I'll put this saddle on every "nice" acoustic I own from now on. Bone is a tad brighter, but the "complexity," for lack of a better word and "richness" added by the Ivory saddle is remarkable. I question whether an audience could hear it (especially through a PA or amp), but I can, and I love it. My advice is find out for sure that you already have a bone saddle. If it's TUSQ, get a bone saddle from Bob. If you're sure you have bone, I'm not sure I would "graduate" to ivory til you've spent some time with the guitar. would i benefit sonically at all from changing my pins? No question about it. and if i change my pins am i better off with ivory? or bone? etc... My personal belief is it doesn't matter so much as long as they're not plastic. what are everyone's experiences with him? Nice guy, super fast shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr newhaven Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 hey bkharmony i just got off the phone with gibson...the nut and saddle are both BONE not tusq...so that is all squared away... so it looks like pins for me and maybe a strap button...now i need to measure the damn things and send those out to BOB... but its great to hear so far that he is indeed the MAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp58 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Definetly change out those plastic pins. A definete sonic change. (IMHO). The strap button is your call! If you always play setting down, leave it. If you do play standing up and use a strap, that's just a personal preference. Enjoy that new guitar! I've got it bad for a small body Gibson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermionik Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 . . He is a tone god, or minimum a minor deity..... Any and every product he makes, when fitted to your guitar, will improve the tone and sustain, with the added benefit of looking cool and dandy too. You can't go wrong. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodehopper Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I do have Colosi pins in most of my guitars. I personally think that they have improved the sound of my guitars. This is very subjective. I have heard opinions ranging from "no change in sound what so ever" to the opposite "they made my guitar sound too bright and thin" all the way to "they made my crappy $90 guitar sound like a pre-war Gibson". I love Colosi pins for the looks and just to put my personal touch on a factory guitar. His Abalone and Faux Tortoise inlays are great looking and his workmanship is very good. Get the pins and enjoy how they look...especially since they are relatively cheap and easily un-do-able. No harm no foul other than the cost. If you feel they improve the sound of the instrument ...well...then that is just an added bonus. Do follow his measuring advise he has on his website. I goofed on measuring and ended up with pins that were too small and he quickly suggested I send them back and he sent me replacements the same day. He is great to deal with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgwoods Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm mostly in the no change whatever camp- nut, bridge and pins make very little, if any, difference. Obviously enough people disagree to give Mr Colossi a good living. I don't think he's selling snake oil, he's honest and has excellent products. I think there is far more changes to be had in tone and volume through choice of strings, picks, and technique. I've bought and tried fossil ivory etc for components on some of my instruments. I no longer do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Ferguson Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Saddle material is one of several major things that define the sound of a guitar, with guitar shape and construction, wood choices, scale length, string choice, and playing technique also being important. Even the humidity level affects the sound of my guitars, which is why I keep them at a controlled humidity and temperature at home. I put bone saddles in all of my guitars that didn't already have them, and I got my saddles from Bob Colosi. They improved the tone considerably, as well as the sustain. My two coppers worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMELEYE Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thanks, Mr. N. Didn't notice that my Arlo's nut and saddle were bone. Nice touch. Bought a Colossi bone replacement saddle for my RJ, 'cause it came with a non compensated replacement saddle that's leaning forward a tad. Ce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr newhaven Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 This company called TiSonix (sp?) makes Titanium pins that apparently work wonders not to hijack my own thread but isn't titanium not that dense a metal like say copper? How can it had massive sustain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkharmony Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 This company called TiSonix (sp?)makes Titanium pins that apparently work wonders not to hijack my own thread but isn't titanium not that dense a metal like say copper? How can it had massive sustain? I've no experience with titanium pins, but I have a guitar with brass pins. I won't recite the entire speech again but to say, I'll never buy another set of brass pins, nor put them on any guitar I own. I can't imagine titanium would be any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermionik Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 . Titanium, bleah - you should get some Unobtanium pins with snake-oil lubricant. Tone monsters. They are even better than the Heisenberg Quantum pins I posted about a month back..... .....though I am still not sure about them. (http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23901) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodehopper Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 HAPPY TURKEY DAY - What I am most thankful for on this special day...... threads like this !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA83 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 HAPPY TURKEY DAY... Oh yeah - that's why it's so quiet around here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Rondack Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Get the pins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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