atfguitar Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi I am an SG player and i have run apon some trouble i have my guitar in a hard shell case, and stupid me for thinking that it would be protected left it leaning on a wall and a 2 yr old child rode by on his tricycle and knocked it over thus snapping the head stock almost completely off. being in a small town at the time i didnt have much resorces to get it fixed so i took it to the closest guitar shop and they made what would be a temporary fix because about 5 months later one of my friends knocked it off its stand thus snapping the head stock even more its a beautiful guitar and i would love to play it again someday ,does anybody have an idea what i should do yo fix this once beautiful guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 OMG, 2 headstock breaks?!? :- Brutal. Sounds like a job for a talented luthier, or maybe a new neck. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atfguitar Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 here are some photos of it please and ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atfguitar Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 yeah man nothing but bad luck but i have owned it sing 2001 so its been a good while one problem is its a uni-body guitar so a new neck is almost out of the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intenseiam Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 oh dear! if you want to get it fixed by people who know what to do gib gibsons send off to gibson repair & restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS44 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Make sure they reinforce it when they fix it up. I forget someone posted a vid of it where they reinforced the neck. Oh yeah The Viking SG... but the crash got rid of that. Sorry if that seemed vague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Well try an glue it again. Use some good wood glue....titebond. Have someone fix it for you. And learn to be more careful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiJAMM Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Ouch! Good luck with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atfguitar Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 yeah i heard that you could even use apoxy resin and fiberglass but i dont want to do that unless i know for a fact it will work i wanna try to fix it but i want something thats not gunna screw with the sound and a good fix ive also heard about boat apoxy but then again i dont know if thats a good idea either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Don't use epoxy resin type products it will fail and also fill the pores of the wood preventing wood glue to hold in the future. Wood glue is the best thing that can be used to fix it, along with dowel rods inserted to reinforce things but that is for a skilled person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atfguitar Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 thanks man i appreciate the input and all the help! i never thought of using dowel rods but it sounds a little more concrete i defenetly wont use epoxy from the photos do you think that dowel rods will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yew Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Technically, with wood glue (pva) it should ba as strong, if not stronger, than it was before, but i would suggest sending it to a tech.. they might need to melt the finish a little to make it seem flawless again, and with stuff that has that kinda effect on nitro, you want somone who knows what thery are doing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 The best glue for this kind of repair is hot hide glue. It out-performs all the Titebond products in shear strength and heat resistance (even Titebond's latest polyurethane glue). It is the outright number one choice. The area can be strengthened further by the use of splints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I don't know what your circumstance is, but I would take it to as many reputable luthiers as possible for opinions. Discuss the every detail mentioned above - types of glue, dowels, screws - and don't rush. Get price quotes - with the understanding that they may be varied and vague. A good luthier will do everything he can to make it right as long as he knows you won't get scared of the bill. Select one from the bunch that seems to work best for you. Allow him all the time he needs to do it right and don't b!tch about the price - he's saving your baby. Honestly, the guitar is not worth the money. But where I have a problem with that is - what do you do? Use it for fire wood? Like you, it makes my skin crawl to think of simply giving up.... Get it repaired, assuming the first botched repair doesn't make that impossible. Treat the guitar with the care and consideration it deserves. Play the hell out of it, knowing it has jack for resale value. I hope it works out for you, and you enjoy the guitar for many years to come. Good luck. P.S., Have you never heard how vulnerable the Gibson headstock is? Just sayin'...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 definitely take it to a quality luthier, and BE CAREFUL with it. Headstock joints are weak and notorious for breaking, especially when they don't have a volute and also have a hole drilled for a truss rod. the weight of the tuners when it is falling over can easily snap the wood there, so always store it in a case on the ground or in a rack where it won't fall over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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