anthonyc007 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Sorry, my memory fails me. But I was thinking of swapping out my tuners on the J-45RW. Is there a direct drop in for the Grovers? Does anyone have any good recommendations? Is it worth it?? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosewoody Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I like the Grover Deluxe with tulips, which require drilling a top mount hole for the extra screw. Otherwise a close fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Rondack Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 You can also switch to the Waverly's with the white ivoroid button, which make it look more like an original J-45. You have to buy the "conversion peghead bushings" ( http://www.stewmac.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?action=SERVE&sku=3456&ITEM=catalog/sku.html ) from Stew-Mac and drill an extra hole for the upper screw but it's pretty easy... I did it on a Dove Artist, went from the gold Grovers to nickel Waverly's... pretty quick process and it looked great! Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyc007 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 I like the Grover Deluxe with tulips, which require drilling a top mount hole for the extra screw. Otherwise a close fit. Like these?: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/Grover_Deluxe_Keystones.html You can also switch to the Waverly's with the white ivoroid button, which make it look more like an original J-45. Like these?: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/6/Waverly_Guitar_Tuners.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWilson Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I installed Kluson Deluxe Gold with Tulips in my J-45. They basically dropped in, no drilling. I had to use a round file to clean the holes just a tiny bit. I left them on for about a year and thought they looked great. Then I kept looking at the photo I have of Bob Dylan plying his J-45 and put the original white ones back in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyc007 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Maybe I should just replace the buttons with ivroid in order to look more historic (and lessen headstock weight). Anyone do that? Which ones fit the grovers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosewoody Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Like these?: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar' date='_solid_peghead_tuners/Grover_Deluxe_Keystones.html Like these?: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead_tuners/6/Waverly_Guitar_Tuners.html [/quote'] Yes, the Grovers in nickel are what I used, and they were a close fit. They have the nice cast shell as opposed to the formed Kluson clones, and 14:1 is a sensible ratio--you're not constantly winding when changing strings. Although I have to admit I only change strings every year or so. As to changing out the knobs on your existing tuners, they're Rotomatics, right? If so, they'll look goofy (just my opinion) with ivoroid knobs, asuming you can get to fit. And the Waverlys are very nice, but man are they expensive for no more than what they have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyc007 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hmmmm...Those Waverlys look great: But 140 bucks is a lot of dough for tuners! Are they worht it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWilson Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Wow, those Waverlys do look great!!! If you really like them you can find a way to rationaize it. Like instead of thinking of them costing $140 thin of them as costing $23.33 apiece. lol Honestly though, those are really nice looking tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Rondack Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Waverly's are so worth it... and, yes, those are the ones I mentioned in my first post here. Beware, though, once you switch it's hard to be satisfied with anything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyc007 Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 The Waverly's are so worth it... and' date=' yes, those are the ones I mentioned in my first post here. Beware, though, once you switch it's hard to be satisfied with anything else![/quote'] :( :( :( Hmmmm...very tempted. I love spending money unnecesarily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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