phil_104 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hey guys, I'm going to be installing strap locks on the les paul standard I will be getting soon. I was wondering, are there any strap lock pins that will fit with the stock gibson screws already in the strap buttons? I use dunlop on my other guitars, so I was wondering what you guys use that fits the gibson screws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Schaller. Seriously, installing Schallers is well within the ability of ANYBODY who can change a set of strings. I know that's not what you asked.... :-) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_104 Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 Lol. I know, but when you did it, were you able to keep the original screws? I'm also curious about the dunlop, caus that's what I use on my other guitars, and they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yeah. On some Gibsons, the screw head from the back pin is too large to fit inside the Schaller head. Just grind the edge of the head down a little so it will clear. You can reuse it with the original Gibson pins if you ever put them back on, nobody will notice. I don't know why you would, I have a drawer FULL of them. Seriously, next time you are headed near a hardware store pull both the screws out of your Gibson. Get exact copies, preferably in stainless, be sure the thread pitch is the same. Cut, grind or do whatever to the new screws and put the old ones with the Gibson pins in a ziploc bag in the case. Buy a handful of faucet washers too, 1/2" diameter. Use them in place of the felt washers. Cost you like $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sycephant Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I actually prefer the dunlops. I've never had an issue and have them on all my guitars. I used Schallers once and could never trust them but you could say that about dunlops too. To each his own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetiii Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I put the Shallers on a Strat and the Dunlops on a SG Jr. see them on You Tube. I prefer the Schallers and lilhendrix132 prefers the Dunlops! He is 12, but surprising. http://www.youtube.com/lilhendrix132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I preffer Schallers... there was a thread about this a while ago... let me see... Here it is: http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2460 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Martin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I like Schallers on my Les Pauls, Dunlops on everything else. So far. We'll see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schaller and Dunlop are both good systems. I have a slight preference for Schaller, but if a guitar comes with Dunlops I'm not going to change them. The thing to remember with Schaller is to check regularly (as in every time you hook the guitar to the strap) if the nut that holds the thing-a-ma-bob to the strap isn't working loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I preffer Schallers... there was a thread about this a while ago... let me see... Here it is: http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2460 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plank_Spanker Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 The thing to remember with Schaller is to check regularly (as in every time you hook the guitar to the strap) if the nut that holds the thing-a-ma-bob to the strap isn't working loose. That's why I apply a dab of LocTite to the threads when I install the nut..................................but I still check them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideAwake Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schallers all the way. Some toothpicks and woodglue will help also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_104 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schallers all the way. Some toothpicks and woodglue will help also. That's the thing, the whole point of the thread actually. I wanted to know if one of the two systems would work without having to drop a tootpick with glue in the guitar. I guess I will try them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schallers all the way. Some toothpicks and woodglue will help also. Took the words right out of my other straplock post ... Works great and can be removed if necessary , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTW27 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvansickle Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schallers all the way. Some toothpicks and woodglue will help also. Yep, me too. I read about this technique first in Ritchie Fliegler's book, and I've done this on every guitar when I've installed Schallers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!! Let me get this straight..... You guys won't spend the equivalent of a pack of strings on proper screws? You won't invest the same time it takes to CHANGE A SET OF STRINGS to do it right? You would rather pull the same used guitar shop trick somebody in a guitar magazine did, than do a proper/reversible modification that leaves no damage to the guitar..... Someday I hope that I can finally afford a real '59 Les Paul. For a million dollars, I hope some cheapskate didn't use the "toothpick trick." "Yeah I could spend $5 and 30 minutes to do it RIGHT, but I wanna be cool instead!" BRAVO!!! Jeez...... - < Neo scribbles down some forum-user names, and a note reminding himself to NEVER purchase used gear from them..... > - . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickblues1 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Schaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_104 Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!! Let me get this straight..... You guys won't spend the equivalent of a pack of strings on proper screws? You won't invest the same time it takes to CHANGE A SET OF STRINGS to do it right? You would rather pull the same used guitar shop trick somebody in a guitar magazine did' date=' than do a proper/reversible modification that leaves no damage to the guitar..... Someday I hope that I can finally afford a real '59 Les Paul. For a million dollars, I hope some cheapskate didn't use the "toothpick trick." [i']"Yeah I could spend $5 and 30 minutes to do it RIGHT, but I wanna be cool instead!"[/i] BRAVO!!! Jeez...... - < Neo scribbles down some forum-user names, and a note reminding himself to NEVER purchase used gear from them..... > - . LOL! Actually, one of the reasons I want to keep the guitar tootpick-less is long term value. I'm just going to use the dremel on the screw and keep the body intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderman Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I had that problem in my mind... would i have to put glue on it? not because of thinking on selling my LP VOS goldtop, but because i was thinking about never have that strap button original, tightened, well, i think you know what i was feeling. Than, i bought SCHALLER, took off the original strap button (and the screw), looked at the other screw that came with schaller straplock, and it was a little (very little) thinner, and size was just a little bigger. When i took off original screw, i felt it very tighten, so the hole of the screw was just perfect... the original screw didn´t fit on schaller strap lock, so i really had to put the schaller one, and, beleive it or not, the schaller screw entered in the hole very tightened, very solid, and it is PERFECT! no glue, no nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvansickle Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!! Let me get this straight..... You guys won't spend the equivalent of a pack of strings on proper screws? You won't invest the same time it takes to CHANGE A SET OF STRINGS to do it right? You would rather pull the same used guitar shop trick somebody in a guitar magazine did' date=' than do a proper/reversible modification that leaves no damage to the guitar..... Someday I hope that I can finally afford a real '59 Les Paul. For a million dollars, I hope some cheapskate didn't use the "toothpick trick." [i']"Yeah I could spend $5 and 30 minutes to do it RIGHT, but I wanna be cool instead!"[/i] BRAVO!!! Jeez...... - < Neo scribbles down some forum-user names, and a note reminding himself to NEVER purchase used gear from them..... > - . "Lighten up, Francis!" - Sgt. Hulka, Stripes Speaking for myself, my guitars are made for playing and that's how I use them. They're not museum pieces. If I bought a vintage collectible, I might feel otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3msp4 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I always use rubber GROLSCH beer bottle rims. Never failed me, and I've had some heavy guitars! anyone else? G ( ok they are ugly as sin...it's a ny punk thing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apyoung86 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I used the Schallers on my Studio and I didn't have any problems with the Schaller screws. I put a little wood glue in there, but I don't think it was necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG_Mike Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 http://www.lockitstraps.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG_Mike Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I just noticed how old the original post on this topic was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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