AXE® Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Self explanatory but will open most of the doors. The Circle Of Fifths. [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I know, to be a decent player, I can't just learn chords and then go about my business and learn solos by ear for ever. BUT its one of those things I will do and do until you get a CLEAR reason to bother to learn the scales. This tutorial helped me see why it might be beneficial to learn scales. Not sure I'm ready for scales...playing is more fun than practicing but, of all the vids on scales I've seen, this one (despite the guy saying confusing stuff), just from seeing the patters one after another, has given me the most insight. Thanx AXE. I've gone and favorited it to my account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:oilpit: Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 favorited...thanks AXE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Yes,yes,yes, but how do I play Sweet Child O' Mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Good post!...If you want to learn the notes do what I did...put little stickers on the fretboard....sounds silly but it works. Now dont gig with stickers plastered all over your neck, t'would be sissy! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Good post!...If you want to learn the notes do what I did...put little stickers on the fretboard....sounds silly but it works.Now dont gig with stickers plastered all over your neck' date=' t'would be sissy! lol[/quote'] You did that to your R9??? Just kidding... but you didn't, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 That stuff makes my head hurt! I remember when I learned that by playing the major scale, I was actually playing 7 scales or modes at once just in different keys, so theoretically I could just move the major scale pattern around the fretboard to play in any mode in any key... suddenly I could play in the mixolydian mode and the phrygian mode. It was cool but a bit mind numbing. Of course all theory springs from the major scale, so everyone should know it. I'm always surprised when people don't even know why a minor chord is minor - pretty basic stuff that, again, requires an understanding of the major scale. I wish I had more patience for theory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Since I'm self taught I found the whole circle of fifths theory to really help open up my ability to navigate easier around the fretboard. Another thing is every fifth note is also a string skip. E F F# G G#--- A Bb B C C#---D---...And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Very nice video! Circle of Fifths is a must for every player. Another thing is every fifth note is also a string skip. E F F# G G#--- A Bb B C C#---D---...And so on. Except for the G string which has a skip on the fourth note-> G' date=' G#, A, A#, [b']B[/b]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I think the circle of 5ths helps you to learn every note on the fretboard, when you know what notes you are playing, it lets you lead yourself to the right notes instead of guessing what notes you are gonna play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I am currently learning music theory and it is a b¡tch! Helpful video though and yes, theory does help, I still need to find more time to incorporate it into my own playing by writing more of my own stuff instead of putting together chords and banging out a solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Music theory is good stuff as long as it's not overdone, which is my problem. But I think it can help you learn the fretboard. Here's an example. I started teaching my son the piano when he was 6 years old. I don't play piano much anymore and he wanted to play guitar because he saw daddy playing it a lot. I told him he'd play guitar once he's at a certain level on the piano. That happened about 6 months ago. He was able to read music and play both hands together. In addition he knew 4 scales. The first week on the guitar I had him memorize the strings. The next week I told him "Every fret is a half step on the piano. When you reach the note of the next string play that new string instead." I had him say the notes as he picked. He literally got it all down in less than a day. What helps me play guitar is that I don't see a fretboard when I play. Instead I picture notes on a scale. Playing piano forces you to do this. So I think everyone should get a cheap keyboard and learn the keys a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 That is very helpful. I learned that many years ago. Only recently I learned that many jazz players learn the same thing as Circle of 4ths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermionik Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 . I got one of these years ago to help speed up some transposing (you ever noticed sheets come in really guitar UNfriendly keys.....) And it opened up a whle slew of playing and composing ideas for me:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Grab cd and put in player and hit play haha Back in my day it was put record on turntable. Place needle on record. Listen. (repeat as needed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Thanks for that, AXE; good to know the bones. (Also I now know what RogerGLewis was on about in his Circle of Fifths sentence!) .(you ever noticed sheets come in really guitar UNfriendly keys.....) Nik; when I was just starting out, I think I'd only been playing about a week, I bought 'The Complete Paul Simon Songbook'. It had all our party favorites but many in keys like F# or C# and the chordwork was a bit of a chore, to put it mildly. About six months afterwards a friend who came to jam said to me "Wow! Why don't you just put a capo on the (Nth) fret....". Me; "A capo? What's a capo?"......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 You did that to your R9??? Just kidding... but you didn't' date=' did you? Thunder....No no...When I was learning. Im talking 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertjohn Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Here's the first piece I could think of that incorporates a cicle of fifths in the chord structure and guitar part. Not heard this for probably 15 years - it's amazing what can trigger a memory. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyjPL_o0fjc[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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