Laaz Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Here's the latest round of counterfeits... Chinese firewood #1 Basswood body ? Chinese firewood #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak show Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How about this novel idea' date=' why not report these to Ebay instead of here? Its easy hit that button that says [i']Report this item[/i] It does work. Try it. eBay doesn't always react, but just last week they actually removed a fake r8, after I reported it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Here's the latest round of counterfeits...Know exactly where you're coming from mate...forget it. Right or wrong' date='you may THINK you're helping,but you're not. Forget about here (sad as that is) take it upon yourself to report anything sus to eBay etc. even though I know there's strength in numbers. I applaud ya anyways for what it's worth. :-# Mother knows best. :-# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Already reported. I thought I might try to help keep someone from losing a bunch of cash on a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Already reported. I thought I might try to help keep someone from losing a bunch of cash on a fake. Funny...:- Because I've been there before. :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 How are you bassing your thread, especially the second one it looks ledgit. The only issue might be a owner that does not know what the guitar specs are. The other two are closer to being fake than the second one. How about this novel idea, why not report these to Ebay instead of here? Its easy hit that button that says Report this item Hummmm.... Try doing a google search on that description. I bet the first thing that pops up are madeinchina dot sights, word for word. Basswood is very common in the Orient and has never been used to make a Les Paul. Other giveaways are 50's or 60's neck and CR or GD (Chrome or Gold) and the fact they are using a generic photo. I give up... Let em all buy Chinese crap. Tell ya what I promise I won't call out any more fakes. I'll just sit here and watch these pour souls throw their money away... :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Funny...:- Because I've been there before. Lowdown you have the right idea. There should be a sticky thread, could save quite a few people from getting robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Lowdown you DID have the right idea. There should be a sticky thread' date=' could save quite a few people from getting robbed.[/quote'] :- Really?! You jest. :- Did you not read the thread? I went down like a sack of sh*t. And my yay-sayers ditched me...:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 :- Really?! You jest. :- Did you not read the thread? I went down like a sack of sh*t. And my yay-sayers ditched me...:- Makes ya wonder doesn't it. :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaviSlva Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Body: Basswood& Flamed Maple Top Neck: Mahogany with `50`s Rounded or `60`s slim taper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Is there a good thread here for tips on spotting counterfeits? I hear that there are some convincing fakes coming out of China lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrrr Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 You can't rely on Ebay to remove fakes. I've reported lots of them, I get a nice automatically generated message saying that they will look into it, but days later the guitars are still up for sale and eventually some poor sucker buys them. I think Gibson should get their lawers to talk to Ebay and try and put the onus on Ebay to get their house in order, after all by taking their percentage of the sale price they are complicit in all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think Gibson should get their lawers to talk to Ebay and try and put the onus on Ebay to get their house in order, after all by taking their percentage of the sale price they are complicit in all this. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunwich Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The Custom looks rather dodgy. the second has a stock photo, so no go on that. The first looks quite real. What makes it a counterfeit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 The first looks quite real. What makes it a counterfeit? Ever see a Les Paul with a headstock made out of one solid piece of wood ? Ever see a Standard with a truss rod cover engraved "Les Paul Standard" on it ? Wrong bridge, wrong knobs, pups with red and blue Gibson stickers on them... Case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildobbin Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Hummmm.... Try doing a google search on that description. I bet the first thing that pops up are madeinchina dot sights' date=' word for word. Basswood is very common in the Orient and has never been used to make a Les Paul. Other giveaways are 50's or 60's neck and CR or GD (Chrome or Gold) and the fact they are using a generic photo. [/quote'] Yeah, some Strats at one point were made out of basswood but Lesters... nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikko18 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Ever see a Les Paul with a headstock made out of one solid piece of wood ? Ever see a Standard with a truss rod cover engraved "Les Paul Standard" on it ? Wrong bridge' date=' wrong knobs, pups with red and blue Gibson stickers on them... Case...[/quote'] Also it looks to me like the middle part on the top of the head is to long. Sorry I'm not more specific, I just don't know what that's called x[ The part that's like _<><>_/ The middle of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoRedFoot Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm with you 110% Laaz. I reported that LP custom too. Clearly Chinese. There were 8 bids on that POS. That 1st one was preety bad. The 2nd not too sure and that last one was classic Chinese knock off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 If it saves one person from getting ripped off it's worth it. The market is getting flooded with this junk. Every snake out there it seems is importing these things for $200 and passing them off as the real deal to unsuspecting people. I think it should be the Gibson community that takes a stand against this BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaz Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Here ya go ==> Pawnmart Custom with rosewood board... Can anyone spot the problems here. Did Gibson make a ungodly amount of Les Pauls on the 200th day each year ? Or better yet the 400th day of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet22 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hard to say on the 2nd one - but "Anytown, United States..." - do you guys get that in the US on Ebay..? The 1st and 3rd ones are the best fakes I've seen yet. Hard to tell from the photos, but it looks like the Custom might even have binding on the frets...? I've never seen that on a fake before. Scary....... They're actually pretty close. I've played Gibsons for over 15 years now - and it's usually just the shape and proportions that give it away for me..... These look..... fishy, just from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet22 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Just seen the 2nd seller's other items. A couple of custom built PC's with a mysterious 2 yr warranty.... http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Built-PC_W0QQitemZ250565733686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item3a56e1ad36 Yeah, good luck with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoRedFoot Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 If it saves one person from getting ripped off it's worth it. The market is getting flooded with this junk. Every snake out there it seems is importing these things for $200 and passing them off as the real deal to unsuspecting people. I think it should be the Gibson community that takes a stand against this BS. +1000000000000 I do what I can. 1 seller at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertjohn Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 If it saves one person from getting ripped off it's worth it. The market is getting flooded with this junk. Every snake out there it seems is importing these things for $200 and passing them off as the real deal to unsuspecting people. I think it should be the Gibson community that takes a stand against this BS. +1. I don't wish to be critical but it would be very helpful if folks would explain why these are fake. I know there are several posts on this thread which do exactly that. I come here to learn as well as have a laugh and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm no LP expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I reported Chinese firewood #1 and 2 to eBay and received the following response regarding #2: Dear Phillip, Thanks for reporting listing 290392793668 to us. I investigated this listing and found that it didn't violate our policy. Although there can be certain indicators that are commonly associated with fraudulent listings, none of those indicators could be found within this listing. I know that you may find this information disappointing, however I would like to assure you that we are committed to keeping the eBay site safe from infringing items (bootlegs, counterfeits, and "knock-offs"). How we do this is through our Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) program. Because we are not experts in all the types of items listed, we work closely with many producers and manufacturers to protect their intellectual property rights. Rights owners report directly to us listings that they believe are infringing. When we receive these reports from a VeRO member we are required by law to remove it. However, because so many listings are posted on eBay every day, not all infringing listings may get reported to us from the rights owner. For this reason, we encourage you to contact them with any infringing item you may find. You'll find a list of rights owners and contact information, as well as information about infringing items, in the VeRO Program About Me pages. To view the list, please go to: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html Keep in mind that the list of rights owners does not include all rights owners that report through the VeRO Program. This list contains the rights owners that have chosen to post About Me pages that provide information regarding their products and legal positions. If you can not find a specific rights owner in the list, a web search should help you find contact information for them. We appreciate your patience and your efforts in keeping eBay a safe place to trade. If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this email and let us know. Sincerely, Cyrus eBay Customer Support Trust and Safety Operations I thought #1 had been pulled at first, but see it's still there. I give up - both are definite fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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