Silverbursted Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I am down to only 2 LPs now; an R9 and an R7. I have not found or played any better Les Paul since (not from a lack of trying). So here is my question. Would you consider something completely off the wall from what is currently in your inventory? I'm not talking about another solid body, I'm talking hollow body, Dobro, Mandolin, bass etc. For me I'm thinking of a hollow body Gretsch or possibly an ES175. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yo when are you going to get an SG ............I mean the only non-SG guitar I would consider is an LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You need to at least try out an ES-335. You owe it to yourself to try one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnate McDuanus Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 A pedal steel guitar. The Carter Starter is probably my next guitar purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenced Fred Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I want to get a hollowbody, actually semihollowbody, I don't know if that counts or not. 335 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 You need to at least try out an ES-335. You owe it to yourself to try one. I did, and liked it very much. But, and this is the reason why I want a hollow body...is the self-exciting resonance that can only be obtained in a thick hollow bodied guitar. I tried a Duesenberg a couple of weeks ago, and it didn't get it either. So far the Gretsch is the only one I've found that can do that. Gibson actually builds a block into their HB's to prevent that, go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I did' date=' and liked it very much. But, and this is the reason why I want a hollow body...is the self-exciting resonance that can only be obtained in a thick hollow bodied guitar. I tried a Duesenberg a couple of weeks ago, and it didn't get it either. So far the Gretsch is the only one I've found that can do that. Gibson actually builds a block into their HB's to prevent that, go figure.[/quote'] What I've have discovered in the Semi-hollows of Gibson is that it gives some of what you seek - exciting resonance but it's not out of control or should I say easier to control due to the solid block. I can get my Elitist Dot to get the top moving and I can actually control the feedback by moving the guitar around. A full hollow body will get that too, but perhaps too much over the top. Anyway, it almost sounds like your mind is made up so just remember to post pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canon_mutant Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Working on a Custom Tele project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 You bet - Nothing wrong with Hollow's at all. In fact my last guitar was a green Gretsch Brian Setzer and I love it. I also own 2 ES-335's, A Rickenbacker 330, A Taylor Koa T5 and a Godin Multiac Jazz all that sound and play great. My next purchase is probably a ES-339[blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoRedFoot Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 My next non-guitar purchase is going to be a banjo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shnate McDuanus Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 RS, those are brilliant! I especially love the finish on that Gretsch, man! That's a beauty, and subtle, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 if i was still in the market for a new (gibson) axe, i'd look long and hard at an ES-345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm waiting for my next guitar to arrive, which is probably still a piece of wood in Stevensville, MD (home of PRS guitars). It's a Custom 24 25th Anniversary Model. I already have a 339 (love it!) and I probably would like to get a Tele next. But, for my non-standard purchase, I always wanted to get a Bouzouki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 If I was able to get another it would be an ES model not set on one in particular though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Anyway' date=' it almost sounds like your mind is made up so just remember to post pictures.[/quote'] Not quite, but I'm close. Retro's Brian Setzer is what I've been eye ballin'. Probably not in green though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Okay, here's my suggestion... The 335 is good. Very good to get you started away from solidbodies. Frankly I like the SG body and don't really care much for the LP. The 335 has probably 70 percent of a hollowbody sound without the feedback with that center block. It's usually a light to medium-light string guitar that's very versatile in terms of sound. I love the woody blues potential. But... The ES 175 is to me the ideal size and shape. It is full hollow, but is a bit smaller than a "full size" guitar since it was designed from the get-go as an electric. The weakness is feedback depending on how you're set up on stage. The strength is easy playability and a nice set of sounds from sweet jazz to decently stinging rock, depending on strings. So... <grin> One way to see what you may like is to pick up an Epi Dot and an Epi ES 175 copy. They ain't Gibsons, but they ain't bad and the two together - under $1,000 new from MF or whatever - would give you a cupla years of getting used to the different sizes and time to put away some bucks for one or both of them in Gibson form. BTW, I think we tend to talk a lot about guitar body style, and a lot less about string choices. Frankly the difference to me is neck and strings even for "tone" regardless of the guitar's body shape. I like a very, very low action and light strings. It works for me and I'm happy with the tone, even on the "jazz box," but others don't care for it at all. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieman15061 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Someday this will be mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/ES/Gibson-Custom/ES-137-Classic.aspx or http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Archtop/Gibson-Custom/Johnny-A.aspx My next purchase is probably a ES-339[blink] I'm surprised you don't have one...or six...already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 R&D' ing for a Gibson LP Special Build... Still deciding what to do...if I will etc To buy would be a 335 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 B.C Rich stealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Just missed this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350310178292&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1090wt_1075 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 My next "Gibson" purchase(s)...SOMEDAY! ;>b CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbursted Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Okay' date=' here's my suggestion... The 335 is good. Very good to get you started away from solidbodies. Frankly I like the SG body and don't really care much for the LP. The 335 has probably 70 percent of a hollowbody sound without the feedback with that center block. It's usually a light to medium-light string guitar that's very versatile in terms of sound. I love the woody blues potential. But... The ES 175 is to me the ideal size and shape. It is full hollow, but is a bit smaller than a "full size" guitar since it was designed from the get-go as an electric. The weakness is feedback depending on how you're set up on stage. The strength is easy playability and a nice set of sounds from sweet jazz to decently stinging rock, depending on strings. So... <grin> One way to see what you may like is to pick up an Epi Dot and an Epi ES 175 copy. They ain't Gibsons, but they ain't bad and the two together - under $1,000 new from MF or whatever - would give you a cupla years of getting used to the different sizes and time to put away some bucks for one or both of them in Gibson form. BTW, I think we tend to talk a lot about guitar body style, and a lot less about string choices. Frankly the difference to me is neck and strings even for "tone" regardless of the guitar's body shape. I like a very, very low action and light strings. It works for me and I'm happy with the tone, even on the "jazz box," but others don't care for it at all. m [/quote'] Thanks for your insight Milod, that is sound advise. I have been playing a lot of HBs lately, and it seems that many manufacturers, including Gibson, are building to be a light weight version of a solid body. It is strange, but that undesirable feedback, that is designed out is exactly what I'm looking for, but with a rocking tone. I know it's out there, I have to just keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canon_mutant Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Someday this will be mine! Purdy! A Rosewood Tele would be gorgeous but I priced a body that looked good enough to me and it as $895 for just the body. Also' date=' you gotta chamber them good or they will weigh a ton. Think I recall seeing a solid Rosewood Tele body that weighed over 9 lbs. by itself. Probably sustain for a week though . . . I'm either going ash/ash stained violinburst, white pearloid bound body, and white pearloid pickguard Rosewood/flame maple white pearloid bound 22 stainless fret neck, mother of pearl dots, corian earvana nut, sperzel lockers [Love Violinburst but always just wanted a Candy Apple Tele too so] or Just alder/alder painted candy apple, white pearloid bound body, and white pearloid pickguard Purpleheart/flame maple white pearloid bound 22 stainless fret neck, mother of pearl dots, corian earvana nut, sperzel lockers either one with modern 6 saddle hardtail tri-pup conversion to Seymour Duncan Tele lil 59 neck, Strat lil Screamin' Deamon middle, Tele Pearly Gates neck coil splitters and S-1 with 5 way Strat switch chrome on chrome about a bazillion sounds or thereabouts I think . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 My recommendation on the Epis? Mostly to give the opportunity to try diff strings. Yeah, back in the day, a lotta guys used flatwounds even on rock guitars, both solid and semi. For example Ricks and a 335 in the first "good" rock band I played in. Then there's that 175 that lots and lotza people almost insist on heavy piano wire or flatwounds on the things. Mine sat in the box for over 2 decades because of that. Then I put on some lighter strings and I love it. For example I really like the Elixirs with the heavier Goretex on that box. 9-42. Unless you're independently wealthy, I think the messing with different strings, playing styles and amp setups (like in what amp, putting it where, playing with what technique) will teach you more about what you're looking for. I know too that I change more technique than I like to think about when I'm playing different guitars and pickin' with different people in different styles. To me it's kinda getting a guitar you're comfortable playing with what your stuff is. I s'pose if I could have but one guitar, it'd be the 175 and believe it or not, choice #2 likely would be the SG, although the SG doesn't do classical for some reason, and I've a hunch it's because it doesn't quite feel like a guitar or have the balance "work" for it with that kinda pickin'. I dunno. <grin> m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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