les paul or sg?

[xxx_lionel_xxx]

les paul or sg what do want if you play hardrock, metal, punk, alternative..........

 

 

Ive heard that the neck of the Sgs are heavy that it makes the neck fall first before the body is that right????

 

 

Sorry for my english=p~

[daveinspain]

They both work well... :-)

[Tim Plains]

I've heard that too, but mine don't.

 

lionel, sorry, I'm not being rude but that's not a good quesion...which do you want? How should I know which guitar you want...nobody does.

 

You have to play them. Play them and then get back to us and YOU tell us which one you want.

[ibis]

Neck weight is moot point, the SG weighs so little, the friction of the strap keeps it in place.

 

They have better top fret acces than a LP. That should be your main concern.

 

Other than that its a matter of which you like the best, for whatever reason.

[xxx_lionel_xxx]

I've heard that too' date=' but mine don't.

 

lionel, sorry, I'm not being rude but that's not a good quesion...which do you want? How should I know which guitar you want...nobody does.

 

You have to play them. Play them and then get back to us and YOU tell us which one you want.[/quote']

 

I mean if YOU play hardrock, metal, punk, alternative..... and YOU are on my place, which one will you buy.... O:)

[Tim Plains]

Again man, you can't ask a question like that. It's too broad. It's like saying which car should you buy?

 

You have to play them and decide because they're completely different. Both have advantages and disadvantages. If you search this forum (and the others) you'll see what they are.

 

You live in Denmark, is there a Gibson dealer near you? Go and try them. That's the only way you'll be able to decide.

 

Besides, what do you think people will say? This is the Les Paul forum.

[LPDEN]

les paul or sg what do want if you play hardrock' date=' metal, punk, alternative..........

 

 

Ive heard that the neck of the Sgs are heavy that it makes the neck fall first before the body is that right????

 

 

Sorry for my english=p~ [/quote']

 

Welcome to the forum, Lionel. You came to the right place! There are both different and similar aspects of each guitar. The first part of your question deals with type of music. Both styles of guitars will allow you to play most kinds of music. The aspects that give you varying sounds from the guitar are mainly from the pickups. From there you choose effect pedals and amplifiers to define which sound you are dialed into. That's the very basic answer.

 

Before you decide on a guitar, you need to establish your budget (how much you have to spend) and that includes amps and effect pedals if you are looking to have everything at once. Some people do this in stages, Guitar then Amp, then Effects. Bring a note pad with you when you visit your music shops and take notes. And spend time trying the guitars which goes into the second part of your question....

 

SG's are typically lighter in total weight than Les Paul's. There is a difference between both in shape (like the one in your avatar is a Les Paul which is referred to as a Singlecut design and typically has two layers of woods on the body which are typically a Mahogany body and Maple top, also referred to as a Maple cap. An SG is typically a single piece of wood, usually Mahogany and is much thinner resulting in a lighter weight, usually arounf 6lbs give or take. Its referred to as a doublecut. Single cut and Doublecut refer to the area the guitar body where the neck meets the body. The "cut" allows your hand to access the frets over the body easier.

 

Les pauls can be as heavy as 11 lbs +/- or as light as in the 6 lbs range where differnt degrees of chambering are used. The more wood routed out of the body, the lighter it gets. Some people like chambered, others don't, while some it doesn't make a difference. I prefer unchambered guitars personally.

 

As for balance, this touches upon the weight of the guitar, mounting points of the strap buttons and your physical makeup as well. The recommendation here is for you to actually handle the both styles of guitars and see where your comfort level is.

 

That's the reader's digest version to your questions. Good luck and feel free to come back and ask more. There are no silly questions.

[Thundergod]

i faced the same dilema a while ago...

 

i wanted both... but was buying only one...

 

my local dealer told me they only had lp studios and sg standards on order... so i chose sg... when they arrived, a standard faded arrived by mistake, they said if i bought the standard faded they would give me a litte discount because of the inconvenience (that guitar came in instead of the sg standard in natural burst i have ordered, the shop owner´s been friend of mine since forever).

 

Of course i was the first person to have her out of the box and case... nice guitar, very good looking, very confortable to play (i like faded necks, not so sticky)... and well, i went for the paul.

 

Looking back i can tell you: i made the right choice... i always wanted a les paul, who hasnt? so if i had bought the sg i would have been allways thinking what the lp would have been like?

 

Im still gonna buy the sg standard when it comes in natural burst (im told that finish isnt as common as black or red so it may take a while for one of those to come here), but i can wait, hell, i have a les paul that plays better than anything there is.

[led floyd9]

Ive heard that the neck of the Sgs are heavy that it makes the neck fall first before the body is that right????

Well, yes, if you let go of an SG's neck for even a second, the neck falls to the ground at like 100 miles per hour. Okay, I'm exaggurating, but, they do fall down quickly. But I don't think it's because the necks are heavy, I think that it happens because the neck is possibly heavier than the body. Seriously, when you pick up an SG, it feels like you're only picking up the neck of it.

[Gibson CS]

I have played an SG at my local music store. Its a nice guitar. Great rock n' roller.

To me its a visual thing.

I see SG, I think Angus Young.

 

Thats when I put the SG back on the hanger.

 

If I had to choose an SG, it would be the white one with 3 gold pickups that Mike Nesmith played

in the movie "Head"

 

In my opinion ( This clears me from getting yelled at )

AC/DC had one, possibly two good songs....I dont see the attraction.

[LPDEN]

Well' date=' yes, if you let go of an SG's neck for even a second, the neck falls to the ground at like 100 miles per hour. Okay, I'm exaggurating, but, they do fall down quickly. But I don't think it's because the necks are heavy, I think that it happens because the neck is possibly heavier than the body. Seriously, when you pick up an SG, it feels like you're only picking up the neck of it.[/quote']

 

They fall or 'lean' mainly becuase of the location of the strap button. Combine a lighter weight body and a regular weight neck (typically same as on any LP), then yes, the neck will feel heavier...

[flyingarmadillo]

Play them both and see what feels better for you. The SG heavy neck feels heavy only if you set your playing position up the same as you'd play an LP. Get a long strap and drop the SG a little bit lower than "normal" and the neck heavy feeling goes away.

[Tim Plains]

I have played an SG at my local music store. Its a nice guitar. Great rock n' roller.

To me its a visual thing.

I see SG' date=' I think Angus Young.

 

Thats when I put the SG back on the hanger.

 

If I had to choose an SG, it would be the white one with 3 gold pickups that Mike Nesmith played

in the movie "Head"

 

In my opinion ( This clears me from getting yelled at )

AC/DC had one, possibly two good songs....I dont see the attraction.[/quote']

Than pickup a black one and think Tony Iommi.

[AXE®]

It depends on what you want the guitar to do , and what do you want to do with the guitar ?

Play em both and decide for your self I have an SG and love it . Like the Firebird it is a little neck heavy but not to the point of any thing to amount to much .

You can easily access the upper register on the SG . (12th fret and higher) I wish My Lesters had that neck to body configuration . then they would be perfect ...

With that said the Les Paul is *** heavy ,

[LPDEN]

Than pickup a black one and think Tony Iommi.

 

LOL! And wear Angus style-pants on hot days!

[Gibson CS]

Tim & LP

Thanks for the pep talk! lol

 

Its not gonna happen. hehe

[LPDEN]

Tim & LP

Thanks for the pep talk! lol

 

Its not gonna happen. hehe

 

Hey, we tried!

[ChanMan]

 

Welcome to the forum' date=' Lionel. You came to the right place! There are both different and similar aspects of each guitar. The first part of your question deals with type of music. Both styles of guitars will allow you to play most kinds of music. The aspects that give you varying sounds from the guitar are mainly from the pickups. From there you choose effect pedals and amplifiers to define which sound you are dialed into. That's the very basic answer.

 

Before you decide on a guitar, you need to establish your budget (how much you have to spend) and that includes amps and effect pedals if you are looking to have everything at once. Some people do this in stages, Guitar then Amp, then Effects. Bring a note pad with you when you visit your music shops and take notes. And spend time trying the guitars which goes into the second part of your question....

 

SG's are typically lighter in total weight than Les Paul's. There is a difference between both in shape (like the one in your avatar is a Les Paul which is referred to as a Singlecut design and typically has two layers of woods on the body which are typically a Mahogany body and Maple top, also referred to as a Maple cap. An SG is typically a single piece of wood, usually Mahogany and is much thinner resulting in a lighter weight, usually arounf 6lbs give or take. Its referred to as a doublecut. Single cut and Doublecut refer to the area the guitar body where the neck meets the body. The "cut" allows your hand to access the frets over the body easier.

 

Les pauls can be as heavy as 11 lbs +/- or as light as in the 6 lbs range where differnt degrees of chambering are used. The more wood routed out of the body, the lighter it gets. Some people like chambered, others don't, while some it doesn't make a difference. I prefer unchambered guitars personally.

 

As for balance, this touches upon the weight of the guitar, mounting points of the strap buttons and your physical makeup as well. The recommendation here is for you to [i']actually handle the both styles of guitars [/i]and see where your comfort level is.

 

That's the reader's digest version to your questions. Good luck and feel free to come back and ask more. There are no silly questions.

 

 

+1

 

 

And your English rocks!

[RIPRIDER]

I have both and they really sound close to the same, My SG has quite a bit more punch..and the LP has a sweeter tone. If you have the amp set on the same settings the SG has more sustain, I don't really notice the difference in weight of the necks and they feel the same. I'd say the SG is more of a Metal Axe for sure...But It also doesn't sound a sweet as the LP...you can't go wrong with either one..if you couldn't see which one I was playing it would be tough to tell the sound apart.