Flyer Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 This is a follow-up from the previous thread "Broken neck" about the LP with a cracked neck at the heel joint. After much advice here I negotiated the price down to about the equivalent of US$1000 and some of the guys wanted pics of the repaired guitar. (It was repaired by a Gibson appointed luthier and was never sold before so is new). As Photobucket are down for maintenance I used "Photolava" and have posted the pics below. I hope they come out alright!! Here is a pic of the guitar with my original 1964 Vox AC30 Treble Boost amp! You can faintly see the crackline about 5cms above the neck joint. This LP has the 60's neck and plays like a dream. I guess it's a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Looks good! How much did it cost? How long did you have to wait? I read in Slash's book that he broke the neck on one of his guitars when playing live. He had it repaired and said it never sounded better! Just goes to show. Wouldn't like to see the neck broken any any of my guitars though... Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 I bought it from a local music instrument dealer and as I said, after receiving advice from this forum, knocked them down from about $1600 to $1000. (I showed them the replies that I got here which swayed the dealer quite a lot I think!) The neck had already been repaired by a Gibson USA appointed guy and it was sold to me completely repaired as it is now. The join looks and feels as solid as a rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom99SS Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Looks great. Now play it and enjoy it. Nothing like a Les Paul in your hands to make one feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I purchased an SG in 1969 and it already had a neck repair. I have had it since and it has never moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Good deal for you. A properly repaired neck can be just as playable as new. The only thing usually effected is value - which is a good thing if you're looking for a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjc guitar Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hey, I have repaired MANY Les Paul necks both Gibson and Epiphone, and just finished an explorer. IF DONE CORRECTLY I would bet anyone it will NEVER break in the same spot again. I sometimes don't understand why the value of a particular instrument would go down with a correctly repaired break. The glue used is stronger then the wood which to me would be a "upgrade" to a historicaly "weak spot" !! But at the same time I do understand that people want and like a "un-altered" guitar. But I just want to try and assure you guys that again, when done correctly there is no need to worry !!! -Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hey' date=' I have repaired MANY Les Paul necks both Gibson and Epiphone, and just finished an explorer. IF DONE CORRECTLY I would bet anyone it will NEVER break in the same spot again. -Rick[/quote'] Probably true, and given the exact same circumstances of force, angle location, etc.. that casued the first break, you can bet that engergy transfer would occur just to either side of the reinforced repair, and break again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Very good deal you got there... If you didn't tell anyone where to look for the repair no one would notice it... Great looking guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Some of the tecniques used today are awesome, especially the finish work that blends away any indication of a repair. There is a alot of talent out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudamax2343 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Sweet axe and I'm glad you showed all are responses. Man look-in at It, you got a real good deal and It looks real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Sweet AXE® I asked you not to call me sweet ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hey guys. Thanks for all your comments both here and in my previous thread which enjoyed a lot of interaction. This forum is awesome!! (BTW Anyone notice the "old" AC30?) Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iownanlps Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 New Cherry Heritage Sunburst. The repair was costly £250 it took 6 weeks, the luthier deliberately leaves the repair as visible as it shouldn't be hidden from a potential buyer. I paid well under £900 which included the repair bill. Mine was new before being damaged (November 2007). I bought it from a friend who deals in them and he wanted me to have it. This guitar is beautiful to play, when I back of the volume the tone is amazing, full up she screams on bridge pup and lets loose the most dramatic woody creamy tone on neck pup. Few people will own this model due to price and taste, so there are few comments around. I had a once in a lifetime chance I couldn't refuse and I am delighted. You can see the dowels in this pic; But this is what I like; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 Awesome pics! Looks like an excellent deal as well. Maybe I'm missing something but I cannot see the dowels - what and where exactly was the damage? (I noticed the darkened paintwork below the headstock but cannot actually see the repair at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iownanlps Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I have caught the light so that you can see the insertion of the 2 x dowels buried into the heel of the neck; The repair doesn't bother me in the slightest as I have a bargain guitar that plays beautiful. I have fallen in love with the 'eye candy' as it wows all my mates every time they see the flame etc; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks for the pics. Great looking guitar and an excellent repair job. Congrats on getting an instrument of such pedigree at an amazing price. Good one!! Weather seems really good for Scotland? Rod (Scot living in South Africa) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelectro Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I wouldn't be too concerned about a broken neck. They're easy to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiveSoundGuy Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrktwn Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Whoooaaaa... That last ones the best. Turnbuckles!.... Wow 250 pounds and it took 6weeks?? That seems a lot of money and time. Thats just about 500 dollars US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibis Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Wow, repairs by engineers rather than luthiers! Mind boggling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Intersting Flyer: I was at my local shop the other day and they had an identical Standard to yours for sale for 1995 on a scratch and dent tag. I looked it over and could not see any marks at all on the guitar. The only thing I saw was a slight roughness of the finish at the neck joint. It was a brand new guitar and I am wondering if Gibson si now trying to flog their seconds through dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iownanlps Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Whoooaaaa... That last ones the best. Turnbuckles!.... Wow 250 pounds and it took 6weeks?? That seems a lot of money and time. Thats just about 500 dollars US. Yes I agree, the cost was paid by my friend before he offered it to me for £850.00. I really play this guitar to bits, I use every fret on the board without mercy and it really delivers, I would love more people to experience the Supreme but I know I wouldn't have shelled out the full price for one of these. I have to say that it is worth it for the top and back and resonance/sustain/sound etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dmac Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I don't think it was cool to spray black across the fixed area !!! You could very well see the fix !! Even if you were going to sell it, this just lowered the price ALOT ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iownanlps Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I don't think it was cool to spray black across the fixed area !!! You could very well see the fix !! Even if you were going to sell it' date=' this just lowered the price ALOT ![/quote'] I totally agree with you, my friend (gibson dealer) is a perfectionist and was really sad when he saw this finish, why do you think I paid £850 for a brand new (yes broken/fixed) December 2007 RRP £2900 - £3200 in uk Gibson Les Paul Supreme? I have no intention of parting with it, to me it is a worthwhile investment as I play a lot of guitar and am not worried about scratching this one, this makes it more special as I expect the average Supreme owner probably spends more time looking and polishing, this one was destined to be played. When I'm playing no one sees the back of the heel of the neck anyway. I might have it refinished in time, who knows, apparently the luthier who repaired it (badly finished) said that a repair must not be hidden. All I know is that the repair is the best in the business (inserted dowels are the strongest most expensive fix). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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