KCro Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Hi guys, I am new on forums but I play guitar for a long time.I would be happy if someone could help me about this. 2 years ago I bought a Gibson SG standard ebony finish from ebay.It costed around 1000$.It sounds awesome but somethings wrong with the serial number and waranty.The first problem is that the serial number in waranty and on the back of the guitar doesn't match. The second problem is that the serial number on the guitar is not written deep enough.You have to look at it on the strong light to see the real number.And the last problem is that the backlist of the waranty is not filled up at all.To help you to help me(LoL) I will show you the pictures. You can what I am talking about. one more of the head my guitar[cool] sorry for bad quality the waranty.This is filled in from seller not from me. here it says the serial number is 003580315 but on the guitar it is written 012680323 the not filled in side of the waranty. please tell me your opinions why did the seller write the wrong number on the waranty? Is it a copy(I am scared now)please tell me it is authentic!
cwness Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 I would call the dealer. On the records card it says Model SG 67 Classic and you have a Standard. That's why the numbers don't match. It looks like you got the wrong card. Didn't you notice this? Welcome to the forum. Usually in a case like this you were given the wrong case. If that's the case have the dealer take care of it he's the one who sent the wrong one. It's always a good idea to go over everything when you get to be sure everything right. CW
KCro Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 Thank you very much cwness! I was confused wiith that 67-classic but I thought it's a detailed description of stnadard model(LoL now I see it's tottaly different model!)How to contact the dealer?I bought it 2 years ago.If I just got the wrong case it's not a big deal, right? So, no worry I got a copy?I mean, it sounds fantastic and looks the same.And what about not deep enoguh printed serial number? I know I am boring but I really don't know what t do. tnx
KL Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 cwness is right. A lot of shops don't give you the right case when you buy a guitar. They have all the cases in a store room and just pick up the first one they come to. It's so easy not to notice something like this until you need it. Let us know what happens.
Southpa Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 So we can assume that somewhere else there is a person w/ a 2008 - 67 Classic and wondering why his warranty card is for an SG Std.! Hard to tell from your picture, too much glare. In one respect the card is right, ie. no legible serial no. so nothing to put on the card. But some folks at Gibson were lax for allowing the guitar to be distributed in the first place without a proper serial number. At the least its still unique!
KL Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 I just read your post again and noticed you got your guitar from ebay. That does make it a little bit more complicated as the Gibson Warranty covers the original purchaser only. Maybe you could post some good resolution pictures so we can see your guitar in more detail to make sure it is a real Gibson. It is certainly possible that the serial number somehow got through their quality control, but if it is illegible it also raises suspicion that it was done like that for a reason.
gizeh68 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 At least your guitar was in one piece! when I bought my LP Studio, it was brand new, still in the box. I got it out to my car in the parking lot of the local Guitar Center and opened it up just to be safe, cracked open the cardboard box, opened the case and found the headstock was broken off! I turned right around and luckily they gave me a new one off the shelf. They had to go in the back and get the right case and verified the SN in person.
KL Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 At least your guitar was in one piece! when I bought my LP Studio' date=' it was brand new, still in the box. I got it out to my car in the parking lot of the local Guitar Center and opened it up just to be safe, cracked open the cardboard box, opened the case and found the headstock was broken off! [/quote'] Wow !!! I can't believe you bought a new Les Paul from a shop and didn't check it out before you paid for it !!!
KCro Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 I will post High resolution pictures a little later.I bought it from ebay because in Croatia there's no a Gibson shop.Only millions of fender shops[blink] I am pretty sure it is Gibson because guy has lots of positive feedback and everything looks tottally authentic: gibson deluxe tuners, logo and everything.And I have seen some same cases with not enough deep written serials.But I am definitly going to post pictures. Thank you for patience guy!
KL Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Yes KCro . . . I know it's difficult finding Gibson's there. It's bad enough in the UK! There are some great guitars on ebay. I have bought from there myself. Hopefully everything will be ok.
cwness Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Hey KCro I think it's a real gibby. If you look at your second pic of the headstock you can see a line where the wings are glued on. That is a good thing because only real Gibsons have the wings. Look on the outside of the top tuner by the curve in it and you will see what looks like the glue line. CW
KCro Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 Here are the pics.I couldn find the angle where the serial is visible to the camera. comments please!!!!:P
Blackie Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 It's a Gibson SG Standard. The serial is just stamped a little light. If the guitar plays fine your good to go. If you bought it from a private individual there is no waranty..........if you bought from an authorized dealer then you can contact them.
KCro Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 Tnx Blackie!I hope you are right! I would also like to hear KL's, gizeh68's and cwness' opinins!
NeoConMan Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Blackie is right. I have an ES-335 that has a serial imprinted the same way. Invisible without the light being just right. It's not unusual. If you can claim that you bought the guitar NEW from a Gibson retailer of some sort, and get the people who sold it to provide some sort of documentation for you, then get in touch with Gibson to register it. See if they will send you some sort of fact sheet with the build code and serial number on it. My guess is that you are simply out of luck if you can't get the correct case from the seller. You have a nice guitar, but absolutely no recourse regarding a warranty.
KL Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 It looks absolutely fine . . . a nice guitar. If you can claim that you bought the guitar NEW from a Gibson retailer of some sort' date=' and get the people who sold it to provide some sort of documentation for you, then get in touch with Gibson to register it. You have a nice guitar, but absolutely no recourse regarding a warranty.[/quote'] However, even if you don't get the warranty don't worry too much. The vast majority of Gibson owners never need to use the warranty on any of their guitars, so you would be unlucky if you actually needed it anyway. It's a nice safety blanket to have the warranty, but it's not the end of the world. Also outside the USA warranty issues are always a bit more hassle anyway. So go and enjoy your guitar!
BigKahune Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 Great guitar. Congrats! Too bad about the case mix up.
KCro Posted April 25, 2010 Author Posted April 25, 2010 Great guitar. Congrats! :( Too bad about the case mix up. Tnx m8!!I actually think I am not going to try anything because it's way too complicated.The first thing is to find the seller on ebay what I am trying to do but no luck yet.second thing is to say the seller I bought the guitar 2 years ago and now I perceived that the case and waranty are wrong(he'll be like WTF?)And then he shuold send the original case which he probably doesn't have anymore(he probably gave it to someone who bought a SG 61 classic)all here in Croatia and I would have to send this case back wich is a costa also.So, I will think about it yet.
met1977 Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 My question would be if you bought it off of ebay as you stated would it still have a warranty at all because gibson warranty states the warranty is only good for the original purchaser. Also I think gibson doesn't allow its dealers to sell on ebay or at least they are not supposed to.
KL Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 My question would be if you bought it off of ebay as you stated would it still have a warranty at all because gibson warranty states the warranty is only good for the original purchaser. Also I think gibson doesn't allow its dealers to sell on ebay or at least they are not supposed to. I think the point KCro was making was that he bought this guitar off ebay and it came with the original warranty card' date=' but then he could not read the serial number on the actual guitar because it was obscured by the paint, but the serial number under the paint [i']appeared[/i] to be different to the one on the warranty card that came with it, and he wanted to know what the actual serial number of his guitar was. I don't think he was actually trying to read the warranty. A lot of people (me included) tend to keep all the paperwork etc when they buy a guitar and then pass it on when they sell it in the future. And my understanding was that KCro just noticed an inconsistency between the numbers and wondered how it happened. Is that right?
KCro Posted April 25, 2010 Author Posted April 25, 2010 Yes, I wanted to know what's going on.Why the numbers doesn't match.Now I understand. One important question:DOES THIS THING WITH LIGHT STAMPED SERIAL LOWERS THE VALUE OF THE GUITAR IF I TRY TO SELL IT ONE DAY?
KCro Posted April 25, 2010 Author Posted April 25, 2010 Your SOL dude' date=' 2 years and your just noticing it. WTF something not right here. I would have checked that right away, no hesitation. Just face it you have a guitar that can never have any warranty repair and all the guitars info doesn't match and that does matter to quite a few people. This should not devalue the instrument to you but even if I was the ebay seller I would tell you to kick sand especially after two years.[/quote'] yes dude I made a mistake.When I got the guitar it looked perfect and sounded perfect and I was really occupied with it.When I saw some papers in case I said" cool I got some waranty and story about orville gibson(read it who f**ks the papers let's play the guitar)And now one day I took that blue paper in my hands and started reading.I read the serial and looked at the serial on the guitar and saw the doesn't match.Then I realised something's wrong here. And I asked if it will affect the price(not that I don't have the waranty but that the serial is not stammped good)to others??It's not a very big deal for me as long as it sounds this awesome!!And one day if I would like to sell it I want to know I can get a good price for it.
KL Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 I don't think it will affect the value. I have bought many new guitars and to be honest I don't really bother with all the papers etc either as long as the guitar is ok I just play it.
NeoConMan Posted April 25, 2010 Posted April 25, 2010 No effect on the value whatsoever - as long as you can read all the digits. Like I said, my 335 is the same way. I had a Melody Maker that was completely missing the first digit on the headstock. Send the serial number to me in a PM and I'll call Gibson with it. I can get all the original build info on the guitar so you know everything you can learn about it. If you ever decide to sell it, you will have a nice little fact sheet. You can tell the buyer that there was a case mix-up, and in all honesty tell him you got it straight.
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