kevoT Posted April 26, 2010 Posted April 26, 2010 My strings are touching the bridge (the side where the screws are), i was wondering how i can change this? is it supposed doing this? I can usually fix many small things but i have never come across anything like this before :/
kevoT Posted April 27, 2010 Author Posted April 27, 2010 sure, i'll post some up later on but it's getting late in my part of the world :/ @giantrobot, yeah i've done what you've said and it didn't the bridge at the point that i did it to, but it gave me the much hated and extremely annoying fret buzz so i put the the tail piece to where it was before. P.S. I don't know if the strings where touching the bridge before but if it wasn't, this may have occurred when i raised the strings higher to stop the buzz (thankfully it did)
Southpa Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 My strings are touching the bridge (the side where the screws are), i was wondering how i can change this? is it supposed doing this? I can usually fix many small things but i have never come across anything like this before :/ I wouldn't be surprised if you've got the bridge on backwards. I encountered the same thing on a friend's LP copy equipped with an ABR-1 TOM bridge. Intonation screws should be facing the pickups on a properly installed ABR-1, facing the butt of the guitar on a Nashville TOM.
NeoConMan Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 My strings are touching the bridgeis it supposed doing this? Doesn't hurt a thing. Bridge height is pretty much a fixed variable based on proper string height. Tailpiece should be down against the body - the way Gibson has assembled them since 1956. As long as the bridge saddles are in the correct position and intonation is correct, just play it.
Blackie Posted April 27, 2010 Posted April 27, 2010 Doesn't hurt a thing. Bridge height is pretty much a fixed variable based on proper string height. Tailpiece should be down against the body - the way Gibson has assembled them since 1956. As long as the bridge saddles are in the correct position and intonation is correct' date=' just play it. [/quote'] No the tail piece is adjustable for a reason.......while you may get a new Gibson with the tail piece against the body that is not how it is suposed to be after you set it up. It is adjustable as to bring the strings up to clear the back of the bridge.
kevoT Posted April 28, 2010 Author Posted April 28, 2010 Hmm i dunno, i came home today after having spent lots of time on my guitar in school, to find that the low E string was a tad muted when played open =.= (ugh more problems) and had a ton of buzz but all the other strings seemed fine compared to the E but i also noticed that in standard tuning (same as i had been playing in all day) all of the strings felt as if they were under a hell lot of tension. It was then i decided "**** this! i'm going tmrw and getting this thing set up!". One more thing, this has made my sg loose its 'sound' acoustically i think though i haven't played on an amp so... yeah. hope this works out :/
BoyVader Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 My new 2009 SG Std is the same....and the intonation screws face to stop bar, not pups... Nothing to worry about imo...I have no buzz...good sustain... like NeoConMan says...stop messin' and just play it.... Although if you have been messing you may need a proper setup from a luthier now.... Also have lots of pictures of SG's (Angus Young custom etc) setup exactly the same way...eg intonation screws facing tail piece not pups... Hmm ...the mystery continues...
NeoConMan Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 I prefer the screws facing the tail. Easier to get a screwdriver on 'em. It's split on my Gibsons. Some came one way, some came the other.
cwness Posted April 28, 2010 Posted April 28, 2010 Nashville bridge the screws face the tail piece. ABR1 face the pick up. Thats what I have noticed is the way Gibson sends them out. CW
gsxrrr Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 I have my bridge screws facing the pickups, and my tailpiece is approx 1/4 inch up away from the body. It may be all in my head but I feel that it is 'slinkyer' (new word scrabble lovers) this way, the strings feel really easy to bend. This is how my SG standard was set up when I got it, I've since copied this set up on my other guitar and swear by it. Hope this helps.
NeoConMan Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 Look at those string ends!!! I cannot believe you did not orient them all properly! Ball ends facing random directions like that are sure to affect your tone/sustain/volume/pitch/vibrato/skill... :-s/
gsxrrr Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 Thanks for the tip Neo, . I've also noticed that a shiny guitar reflects the sound better.
Rui Barata Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 I cannot believe you did not orient them all properly! Ball ends facing random directions like that are sure to affect your tone/sustain/volume/pitch/vibrato/skill... How should they be? Hope you're not joking...
rockstar232007 Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 How should they be? Hope you're not joking... He is joking! Rule of thumb is, the bridge/TP should be adjusted in unison (i.e. If you raise the bridge, you should also raise the TP by about the same distance, and vice versa). The ONLY purpose for the tailpiece is to insure proper tention of the strings on the bridge, and by "proper tention" I mean, just enough pressure to keep the strings from popping of the notches in the saddles. That's it.
NeoConMan Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 Never heard that rule of thumb about the tailpiece/bridge unison thing. I guess I'm lucky. Every Gibson I've ever owned had the tailpiece down as far as the studs would allow. I tried different things, including top-wrapping, and found that the way Gibson assembles them works for me. On the six that I own now, NONE of the strings are in contact with the bridge. On the ones that did, the pressure was minimal because the deflected angle was so slight. Again, it hurts nothing to raise it up if you want. But is it the best/correct/cool/trendy thing to do? Jury is still out on that one.
rockstar232007 Posted April 29, 2010 Posted April 29, 2010 Never heard that rule of thumb about the tailpiece/bridge unison thing. I guess I'm lucky. Every Gibson I've ever owned had the tailpiece down as far as the studs would allow. I tried different things' date=' including top-wrapping, and found that the way Gibson assembles them works for me. On the six that I own now, NONE of the strings are in contact with the bridge. On the ones that did, the pressure was minimal because the deflected angle was so slight. Again, it hurts nothing to raise it up if you want. But is it the best/correct/cool/trendy thing to do? Jury is still out on that one.[/quote']The reason for "the rule" is that if the bridge is to high and the TP is too low, it puts unecessary stress on the bridge which, in time, can actually cause it to bend/bow under the pressure of the strings. Especially with guitars with very high action.
kevoT Posted April 29, 2010 Author Posted April 29, 2010 Fixed all the odd problems with it (except the bridge thing, though i don't care anymore) plays like when i first got it a month ago!
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