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Ever heard of Johnny Winter?

 

If you go to any blues festivals, you'll be amazed at the unknown talent touring the country. I caught Chris Cain last summer and was awed by his playing

 

 

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Ever heard of Johnny Winter?

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Another one of my favorites. I'm seeing him this June--I'm very' date=' very excited.

 

[i']3rd Degree[/i] and The Progressive Blues Experiment were the first two that I heard, and they got me hooked right off the bat. Good stuff. [cool]

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+100

absolutely...I never really got it when I was younger when he was still alive. I used to see his stuff pretty often on tv here but didn't truely appreciate it..I really get it now.

I also like the fact that a lot of the studio stuff sounds like it was done in one take (I don't know if it was, but listening to some of the live stuff I guess it is possible) . The guy was just brilliant.

 

I saw some of his guitars recently at an exhibition, some great stuff there, also had his fender & vox combos on display, and of course his main strat. I'd love to see his whole collection.

 

Check out his guitar collection here:

 

http://www.rorygallagher.com/#/archives/guitars

 

His amps & effects are at the bottom of this link:

 

http://www.rorygallagher.com

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Sorry' date=' the whole greatest ever in colour argument is pretty stupid to me. [/quote']

 

yea i agree owl, i was just thinking that in my opinion he is the best and didn't want a debate about who is [cool]

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Yeah I figured you meant no harm anyways. Honestly though, greatest ever is so subjective to begin with that I stopped the adding the ever to a lot of the stuff I read and just take in the greatest ever books, games, music in general. I used to get too mad when my favorites weren't picked haha

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I never heard anything by Rory until last year, knew his name but not his music.

 

Last year after an article in Guitar World I decided to buy "Big Guns" a double CD comiplation and boy have I been hooked!! I also bought Irish Tour and Live in Europe.

 

I play the hell out of those CDs and was lucky that the "Big Guns" CD is well put together, with pics of his guitars on the sleeves and discs and the liner notes talk from a guitarist perspective since it is part of a Guitar Magazine interview.

 

His approach to recording was not the best but (today) in a world of compression and digitization his sound sounds fresh, imperfect but fantastic.

 

His licks are all over the place too, I love those bursts of energy in his songs and the perfect blend of blues and Irish Rock. Rory has become one of my favorite guitar players in only one year.

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There were some great blues players back in the day. When I workout

I have a rotation of the greats on vinyl I listen to. Today was Johnny Winter And

Live. Rick Derringer played in AND. The first band I played in we did 2 off that

ablum. Johnny B Goode and Jumpin Jack Flash these covers just cooked. Also

in the rotation. 2 Rory ablums Blue Print and Tatoo, Savoy Brown Lions Share

and Hell bound Train. Who's Next and Live at Leeds. Foghats first and ZZTop

Rio Grande Mudd and Tres Hombre. These all had great blues I couldn't pick

one.

 

CW

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There were some great blues players back in the day. When I workout

I have a rotation of the greats on vinyl I listen to. Today was Johnny Winter And

Live. Rick Derringer played in AND. The first band I played in we did 2 off that

ablum. Johnny B Goode and Jumpin Jack Flash these covers just cooked. Also

in the rotation. 2 Rory ablums Blue Print and Tatoo' date=' Savoy Brown Lions Share

and Hell bound Train. Who's Next and Live at Leeds. Foghats first and ZZTop

Rio Grande Mudd and Tres Hombre. These all had great blues I couldn't pick

one.

 

CW [/quote']

 

Awesome selections CW. Right now I'm working on "Guess I'll Go Away."

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Here's my defense on the Clapton thingy....I hear Clapton playing the same licks and phrases over and over, and although they're good, I hear alot of the same solos from '74 that I'm hearing in '92 and '07. To me, Gallagher played surprises. I can't always guess where he's gonna go with something. Rory didn't have the luxury to repeat himself over and over, although I'm sure he probably would've liked the opportunity!:-

Posted
Here's my defense on the Clapton thingy....I hear Clapton playing the same licks and phrases over and over' date=' and although they're good, I hear alot of the same solos from '74 that I'm hearing in '92 and '07. To me, Gallagher played surprises. I can't always guess where he's gonna go with something. Rory didn't have the luxury to repeat himself over and over, although I'm sure he probably would've liked the opportunity![biggrin']

 

 

I'll bet that if Rory had lived, he would have never, not even once, played the same lick twice.

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Awesome selections CW. Right now I'm working on "Guess I'll Go Away."

 

Thanks XD thats a great tune "Guess I'll Go Away". It's just amasing how they could play and the great

tone they got out of their amps.

 

CW

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I think there are a couple problems here.

 

1. There's no definition of "blues." Probably half or more of recorded "popular" music I remember over my lifetime could be considered one way or another as being "blues."

 

2. Then how do you compare some of the earlier recorded acoustic blues guitar guys - usually "black" in the 30s and 40s with today's hotrods? Ain't the same stuff. See #1.

 

3. I happen to be a big fan of BB King and if you wanna talk about some basic licks one might hear in more than one piece, consider the "box" has even been named after him. We all tend to have patterns we follow on the neck regardless of guitar style. You might make a case that such as the classical players don't, but watch how they form what they do on the neck and you'll see repeated patterns whether it's Bach or whatever.

 

4. I don't care much for the race card. A lotta old black guys I knew 40 years ago were proud of music that came through their "community" and were proud musicians of other communities accepted it and audiences of other communities appreciated it. But make no errors here, "blues" originated as an original "American" art form. Also, a lotta the older generation of musicians, black or white, didn't necessarily consider themselves blues musicians as much as just musicians. Did Gary Davis play blues when he fingerpicked "star spangled banner?" Nope. It kinda sounded like Sousa set to guitar. Was Sousa a blues writer? Davis a march player? Are all blues i, IV, V? I don't think so.

 

5. Even a lotta early "country" might be considered blues. A lotta southern musicians, black and white, for more than a century have credited the music they heard around them with being influences - and they didn't point to just to folks with the same skin tone they themselves had. Even the songs floated back and forth among communities.

 

I could go on... but it'd be redundant in a way.

 

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