guitarworld Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Hi to everyone on the forum, I have just acquired a beautiful LP standard 2008 in Ice Tea colour. It plays so well, and looks so great but one thing is niggling at me. When i took it from the case and gave it a look over, I noticed that the cream binding inside the cutaway was misshapen. On looking further I discovered that it was not the binding being misshapen but it was the red colouring from the actual body, which was painted over a part of the cream binding. It is very noticeable in that particular location, and it is niggling at me everytime i play the guitar. Is this an actual fault or can these things happen? Has anyone else had problems like this? Should I contact the dealer I bought it from? I need to contact the dealer today at the latest, so any advice would be gratefully recieved, Regards, Guitarworld Thanks for the replies, I've put some pictures here, hope you can access them. http://s1030.photobucket.com/albums/y362/guitarworld_2010/Les%20paul%20cutaway/
Tim Plains Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Are you sure it's painted over the binding or does it just look like it? The binding doesn't follow the maple cap in the cutaway and what you see is a piece of maple between the binding and mahogany. Can you post a picture of it? If you don't know how - http://forums.gibson.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21335
Rushview Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Could be just some buffing compound needing scraping off. It's usually more visable on the white binding on LP Customs. Post some pics.
guitarworld Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Thanks for the replies. Here is a link to some photo's. I hope you can access them. Regards, Alan http://s1030.photobucket.com/albums/y362/guitarworld_2010/Les%20paul%20cutaway/
cwness Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 That looks like they sprayed the binding because of a poor tape job. If you bought it new and it bathers you take it back. That's just poor workmanship. CW
ZenKen Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Bad Scraping? I don't believe the binding is masked when the guitar is finished. Post spraying the binding is scraped by "skilled" workers to remove the over spray. Edit: Just found this. Check it out: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/219-gibson-custom/
Col F Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Gibson doesn't tape off the binding when spraying guitars. They spray over the bindings which are then scraped off by hand (using utility knife blades that they customize themselves into scraping tools). Your photos are good, but it is still difficult to discern exactly what is going on there. It appears that wood grain might be visible beneath the stain in that area (which would lead to suspecting that it is maple cap), but as good as the photos are, it is really too hard to tell. Do you see wood grain beneath the stain in that area, or do you see perfectly smooth white plastic beneath the stain? If you see some grain, you're looking at the maple cap. If that area is actually unscraped binding you might be able to find someone competent enough to scrape it clean without doing more damage than good (and then polishing the area to bring up the gloss), but frankly, I would not bother, especially since that appears to be the bottom of the guitar.
L5Larry Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your guitar. What your seeing is the edge grain of the maple cap, which takes stain differently than the mahogany. This is exactly why during the Norlin years they covered the seam in this area with a widened binding.
Yaff Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 It look to me that they just haven't fully crapped of the paint. I must admit, as its such a minor thing, I would not loose sleep over it. If it plays, feels and sound perfect to you, I would not let it go over such a small thing.
BigKahune Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Here's Guitarworld's LP pic of the problem - It look to me that they just haven't fully crapped of the paint. I must admit' date=' as its such a minor thing, I would not loose sleep over it. If it plays, feels and sound perfect to you, I would not let it go over such a small thing. [/quote'] +1 Unless you're looking for resale value down the road, no big deal for a player's guitar.
Thundergod Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with your guitar. What your seeing is the edge grain of the maple cap' date=' which takes stain differently than the mahogany. This is exactly why during the Norlin years they covered the seam in this area with a widened binding. [img']http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2327165344_aa9519119d_o.jpg[/img] Dis.
Tim Plains Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I'm actually intrigued by some of the responses. Have you guys ever looked at your own LP's cutaway? Unless you're looking for resale value down the road' date=' no big deal for a player's guitar.[/quote']Please explain how that would affect resale. Every LP with binding since 2002 (except Customs and ones with painted sides/backs) are like that. All historic reissues are like that. '50s LPs were like that. So, how does it affect resale?
georg Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 In my 92 les Paul maple was covered (look at the avatar), but my R7 reissue has got maple cap in sight:
Gator Slim Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Mine looks like that. Every new LP I've played in recent memory looked like that. Feels good? Sounds good? All good.
Thundergod Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Larry nailed it, and in case there was still room doubt, Yoda illustrated it perfectly. Thumbs up for both of you.:D
Thundergod Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 In my 92 les Paul maple was covered (look at the avatar)' date=' but my R7 reissue has got maple cap in sight: [img']http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9316/alim0268.jpg[/img] Is that plastic white? :D I love it! (is it aftermarket, and if so, where did you get it? I want some!)
cwness Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I stand corrected. I just learned something new. Looked at mine and it's the same just not as pronounced. Thanks for the lesson. CW
Tim Plains Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Larry nailed it' date=' and in case there was still room doubt, Yoda illustrated it perfectly. Thumbs up for both of you.[thumbup'] Actually, this thread was over after the first response. D*ck :D
duane v Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Actually' date=' this thread was over after the first response. [biggrin'] yeppers
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