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Youtube "Gibson vs Epiphone" *sigh

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You may remember someone posted a vid of a guy playing a Tokai Les Paul knock off that cost about $900. It looked great and sounded even better (pedals no doubt [biggrin] ) and I would challenge any of us to differentiate the tone from a Gibby in a blind test.

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First sounded like a Neck Pick Up, second like a Bridge Pick Up. More Treble in the second example. Can't say which sounds "Better" on a Youtube Vid, needs to be a Sound Clip with less compression.

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I picked the Gibby. Whew!

 

Is it me or is the tone on both guitars kinda crappy?

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I guessed it right. I used to have an Epiphone LP.

 

These comparisons on youtube could go either way I want to hear how each guitar shounds through a professional level amp, live and loud.

 

I also would like to know how the guitar will hold with time, electronics, frets, tuners, feel of the guitar. I vote Gibson, I am on my third Epiphone and I say if you don't see the difference good for you, you saved a bunch of money!!

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I picked the Gibby. Whew!

 

Is it me or is the tone on both guitars kinda crappy?

I thought they both sound bad as well.

Sounds like a SS amp.

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I've got a couple of problems with the comparison, and at least the guy admitted that it's a "crap comparison."

 

Frankly I think the musician playing parallel models of the two instruments through the same amp or into the same mike will still make a lotta difference in sound. That's the nature of guitar.

 

Secondly I would expect a Gibbie to last longer at highly playable and good-sounding quality with less maintenance concern than an Epi.

 

But... Sheesh, from the Epis I've seen, anybody who badmouths one is full of prune juice or of the inevitable results of overconsumption of such juice.

 

Somebody wants to donate a Dot, I'll happily accept. Would I be somewhat happier with a Gibbie 335? Yeah, of course.

 

On the other hand, playability still largely is setup. Sound largely is the musician, the amp/mike(and PA) combo. I'll wager I'd never be able to get Chet Atkins' quality of sound from his guitar and amp. I simply lack the talent. Darn it. By the same token, I probably can get more sound than some other folks on either my instruments or theirs 'cuz I've been pickin' for some 47 years and have a little bit of technical skill.

 

A final thought - given the ability of modern electronics to mimic almost anything, I think playability is the prime function of today's guitar. I know I play different styles of guitar somewhat differently even when I'm playing the same piece with the same basic technique. That, to me, is a major factor to consider, too.

 

m

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But... Sheesh' date=' from the Epis I've seen, anybody who badmouths one is full of prune juice or of the inevitable results of overconsumption of such juice. [/quote']

 

milod I can tell you the problem with Epiphones is their quality inconsistencies, you can get a really nicely made Epi or a really sloppy one, I should know, I am on my 3rd Epiphone and I am done with the brand unless I buy one as a total beater or to mod the heck out of it.

 

Unfortunately my Casino is the sloppiest made guitar I have owned and still own, a real shame since it is supposed to be one of the nicer Epiphones, and it was made in Korea not China.

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Well, after reading the thread I've just played 3 Gibson LP's back-to-back (without altering any settings) and they all sounded completely different from one another.

 

So if you were to blindfold me, throw in an Epi and ask me to guess which it was I wouldn't have been able to say "Yup. That's the odd-one-out!". Not a hope in Hell.

 

They're all individual.

 

And I also had an Epi LP at one time. I was fortunate enough to have one of the good ones - and it really was very nice to play - but can understand what people mean regarding long-term issues and sheer build quality when compared to a good Gibson.

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^ Yes...I really like my Epi Les Paul Custom....though I don't have a Gibson Les Paul so I can't really compare...I just know i like how it feels and how she plays....i'm sure a Gibson could make it sound like a toy in some hands but since i'm not a pro and just picking in my house I thought i would save some money...

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I have two Epi's and one is decent and the other is truly excellent.

 

The decent one is a Korina Moderne guitar.

The excellent one is an Epi Elitist Dot - this guitar plays better than my Gibby Les Paul and it plays better than any Gibson 335 I played when I was in the market for one.

 

Epi should have never discontinued their Elitist line. I think they still make an Elitist Casino though.

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Stiffhand...

 

Well.... the Epis "I" have seen were fine pieces, at least to the hands and eyes. They may have had structural problems I couldn't see - and I've noticed that MF seems to sell "used" ones that have broken necks.

 

I can believe inconsistency, but with the exception of some boutique/custom guitars I hear that everywhere on guitars.

 

And yeah, I think every instrument will sound a bit diff.

 

But back to Epis... I'm not defending the company, but I do wonder how much has to do with imports and shipping in general. The ones I've seen were in a ma-pa music store new or one in a pawn shop. They don't seem to show up on the used market around here which inclines me to believe that what comes to this relatively dry climate work well.

 

There's no Gibson dealer within some 400 miles plus or minus.

 

So... I dunno. I do know that I don't care for the idea of paying for a guitar I ain't had a chance to play and look at with eyes other than filled with GAS.

 

<grin>

 

m

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Kind of on topic, my buddy broke his last guitar and one of his friends is selling him, and I quote "her sweet old Epiphone Gibson." Man the phrase is as awkward to type as it is to say. I didn't know what he was talking about until he sent me a photo of the headstock, and the truss rod cover had Gibson written on it, so then I understood. I tried to explain to him it was like trying to say "I have a Honda Acura RSX" but he wouldn't hear of it.

 

I think the guitar was a G-400, it looked like a black SG special, only epiphone style.

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