Big Bill Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It'd real. It's a norlin. Please don't rush saying "probably fake 'cause....." if you are not 100% sure you know what you are talking about. Nice guitar BTW Who said "probably fake 'cause....."? :- I don't see anywhere in this thread somebody making that statement. If you are referring to my post, my opinion was dead wrong, but I was very cautious not to label it as fake. I understand that you know more than some folks concerning Les Pauls, however I don't think was necessary to make that statement as you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoundel Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 A few things about the guitar just don't seem right to me. The back of the headstock doesn't have wings on the outer edges' date=' and it looks like there are two seams running down the middle of the headstock back. Also, the "Gibson" insignia on the headstock doesn't look like the correct lettering style and you mention that it's a decal ... it should be silk screened. Finally, the cutaway seems a bit short to me. You may want to look into this a bit more to determine its authenticity.[/quote'] Thanks for your input, RandyB. Correction: The "Les Paul Model" is not a decal. Also, the headstock is actually made up of the continuing 3-piece mahogany neck, with the addition of two smaller pieces on the outside edges, which I take are the "wings"(?). As far as the cutaway size, that might be due to the camera angle. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 As far as the cutaway size' date=' that might be due to the camera angle.[/quote'] Actually, the cut-away area is different from the majority of 'Norlin-era' LP's that I've seen in that it's closer to the original '52-'60 LP's in shape; most have a more pointy horn. Again; lovely guitar! (although I'd put an ABR-1 on it...:- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoundel Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 Actually' date=' the cut-away area is different from the majority of 'Norlin-era' LP's that I've seen in that it's [u']closer[/u] to the original '52-'60 LP's in shape; most have a more pointy horn. The guy I bought the guitar from said that his tech, who set up the guitar recently, said that it had the long neck tenon. My buddy, who convinced me to buy this guitar, said don't be disappointed if that's not true, as it was unlikely. However, being that it also has a cutaway that resembles earlier LP bodies, perhaps it has the long neck tenon too. I guess I'll find out if/when I remove the neck pickup, and/or figure out what to look for. Hmm....? Again; lovely guitar! (although I'd put an ABR-1 on it...:- ) LOL. Stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiZzy-T Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Your Neck Humbucker is a DiMarzio Super Distortion, because his DC Resistance, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrRoundel Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 If the short tenon doesn't have an opening beyond the pickup rout, that goes up toward the headstock, mine is not the short tenon. There is a definite opening beneath the fingerboard and beyond the pickup rout. How far back it goes, I can only guess for now. Great pic's. It definitely tells me what to look for when I remove the neck pickup. I suppose I could sacrifice the strings for science. Thanks for the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoundel Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 O.K., so here's the lowdown. Based on the pictures provided by Axe®, I'd say that the guitar has a "transitional" neck tenon. Yes? Also, the low reading bridge pickup appears to be what is called a "tarback" version. Correct. That's all for now. Thanks for everyone's assistance and comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Tarbacks!!! Sweet. You have a NICE guitar. I'm jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I'm with AXE®! Sweet guitar. Don't ever sell it, well unless you sell it to me!! Congrats on a fine guitar. It looks great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Just ogling your guitar again, MrRoundel, and I spotted your 'Silver Badge' Music Man. I noticed it doesn't have a 'Normal / Bright' rocker switch next to input 2. Out of curiosity which model is she? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoundel Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hey pippy, It must be my own brand of "trick photography" again, as there is a "Normal/Bright" switch next to the #2 input. The model is 210 HD 130. It's the earlier version with the 12ax7 phase splitter. Music Man amps may be underrated, but certainly not underweighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Good Grief I must be going blind! Where is it placed?! I still can't see it so I must be looking in the wrong place. LOL! Here's my '79 '2x12 Sixty-Five' for comparison. Reading from left it goes : Input 1; Input 2; Norm/Bright; Vol; Treb; Mid; Bass. (Your guitar's plugged into a socket right next to the Vol knob as far as I can see...) :- It's the earlier version with the 12ax7 phase splitter. Music Man amps may be underrated' date=' but certainly not underweighted. [/quote'] I just looked in the back of mine and it has a label which states 12ax7A. Is that the same as your 12ax7? (and pardon my ignorance but what on earth is a phase splitter anyway?!) I had to get mine back home from the music shop (25 miles) by using public transport and carrying it - I was an impoverished student and got it as ex-demo - you don't need to tell me about the weight!!! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRoundel Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Two things: 1.)Since the neck pickup in my Les Paul is the way hotter Dimarzio Super Distortion, what do you guys think of switching the tarback to the neck with the Dimarzio in a more conventional, bridge location? It makes sense to me. My buddy and I have been discussing that switch. Without a doubt, I want something less gritty as a neck pickup. 2.) I just want to say that I really appreciate the design and placement of the pickguard/finger rest on the Les Paul. It seems ergonomically perfect. None of my guitars have ever offered an elevated, angled pickguard (2nd hand Casino didn't come with one.), and it just feels very natural. I suppose if I had big hands it wouldn't make much difference for comfortable playing, and my wife wouldn't have left me.:- :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 ...what do you guys think of switching the tarback to the neck with the Dimarzio in a more conventional' date=' bridge location? It makes sense to me.[/quote'] Sounds like a good idea to me. You may have to lengthen the braided wire but that's prety easy. There are quite a few here who are big fans of the p/g and use it as a finger-rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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