Josh James Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Howdy, this is my first post in the "Les Paul" forum...just in the Lounge so far. I have had a goldtop BFG for a few months and it was my first Gibson, but I'm having second thoughts. I played a non-chambered standard the other day and was just blown away by the difference in sustain and clarity. I can't get it out of my mind, should I trade or sell the BFG and maybe lose a hundred bucks from what I payed and put it towards a standard, or just shut up and be happy with the BFG? Don't get me wrong, I think the BFG sounds great, just not perfect and it will not stay in tune even with setup and new graph nut and nut sauce and stretching the strings...it is annoying. Any opinion's are appreciated! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzin Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 If you can afford it and think you´ll be happy, I think you should do the trade. Otherwise you´ll probably always be thinking about it. I think it can be hard to tell yourself you´re happy with something when you´re not. Whats a BFG by the way? Is that a hotrod deville you have? What do you think about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba_leon Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 It sounds like you're ready for the change. One thing I know is once you get that "itch" it will only be satisfied by getting what you want. Choose carefully and keep in mind that BFG's at least the non signature ones are no longer around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 If you are already listing the benefits of the Standard over the faults of the BFG then you really should change. Forget about the money difference - that's not important at all. As has been mentioned above; if you don't do it you will always regret it. Probably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The BFG or "Flintstone" guitar as I call it was a flop....Most guys I know who bought one have traded it for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The BFG or "Flintstone" guitar as I call it was a flop....Most guys I know who bought one have traded it for something else. does that include the Gary Moore BFG? I was considering getting that before i picked up my Studio Deluxe, Ive heard pretty good things about it, and it sounded awesome unplugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 ... I played a non-chambered standard the other day and was just blown away by the difference in sustain and clarity. ... Do your homework. There aren't too many LP models that are solid anymore. You're up against Gibson's move to weight relief and chambering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh James Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 I know that even the higher end models have the swiss cheese relief, but it sure does sustain more than the chambered, imo. Kzin, I really like the Deville, it is really, really loud, I'm using it now for all my clean sounds and for larger, especially outdoor gigs. It really is hard to beat a Fender "clean" =) I know the BFG's aren't around, but there is a bunch of them on ebay. Like I said, it is not a bad guitar at all, just I feel like I'm playing a toy almost...isn't rocking out about having a little shoulder pain after the gig? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 does that include the Gary Moore BFG? I was considering getting that before i picked up my Studio Deluxe' date=' Ive heard pretty good things about it, and it sounded awesome unplugged.[/quote'] Most guys traded it in because they got tired of looking at an ugly guitar... day in/day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Most guys traded it in because they got tired of looking at an ugly guitar... day in/day out. should of known.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThunderz Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Have you tried it plugged in? IMO the BFG gets such a huge amount of different tones and sounds; It does have the p-90 and the bb3. My advice is to just start putting up like $50 a month or something til you can get the standard- they pretty much retain a flat value...they don't go up, and they don't go down. The BFGs are kinda cheap right now, but in a few years they're most likely going to appreciate pretty fast, once the wood ages and folks realize how awesome they are... standards = 60 years of production. BFGs = 3 years production. Hold on to your BFG and save up for a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hey chase1410, hows the weather in O town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase1410 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hey chase1410' date=' hows the weather in O town?[/quote'] cloudy, humid, and hot ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentw Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Buy the guitar you both want and can afford. Never settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejay Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I own two BFGs and they are great guitars, two of the best I have had. Def sound better then they look that is for sure I will give you that. Go with whatever makes you happy, guitars will come and go... nature of the beast. They are not all greater equal either. I had the GOW BFG and that guitar felt like a toy compared to the others I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Shows you how different people can be I had two BFG's also, I tried them because it was different and I tried to like them because of the great pickup combination but I hated the crappy unfinished look and feel so I got rid of both standard BFG's and the only one I kept was the GOW Black studio BFG it was the only one that didn't feel and play like a toy to me. I think Gibson quit making the BFG because they ran out of packing crates or picnic tables or whatever they were made from :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh James Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Haha. actually my goldtop isn't terrible looking. I do get a lot of remarks to the effect of that guitar sounds awesome...not so much on the looks though..lol I just want something that says.....that dude is a professional and he knows his **** and that guitar makes me want to have his babies...pretty much. So, you really think the BFG is going to go up in value? Hmmm Right now I have my eye on a plain top tobacco burst traditional pro 2009 and a 1994 Standard tobacco burst....bout the same price. I always wondered what the obsession is with some dudes and cars or motorcycles...I think I now have my own obsession! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrosurfer1959 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 So' date=' you really think the BFG is going to go up in value? Hmmm J[/quote'] Nope - too many made - few if any of today's guitars will go up in value the only exception will be some of the limited editions and some of the truly exceptional topped Standards. Yep GAS is a horrible obsession and age doesn't cure it I think i'm at 70+ guitars and 20+ amps the only limit seems to be room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh James Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 I did it, I decided to sell my BFG on craigslist! I hope I can get at least 800 out of it, then hopefully I can put another 500 with it and get a standard. Wish me luck! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzin Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Josh James Ok, thanks. I have one myself and I´m not sure if I should keep it. I dont like the OD, I use a blackstar ht dual for OD but I want something more transparent. Im thinking of getting I rebel 20 or tiny terror, but maybe I should keep the deville for clean sounds or when I need more power? Do you know how the cleans compare to other fender cleans? I have a HR deville btw. Do you have the HR or blues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh James Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 I have the HR 4x10. The Deville cleans are just as good as many of the higher end Fender models IMO. It's main drawback is that is does indeed have a ton of headroom at 65 watts. I think you should keep it for all the reasons you mentioned Kzin, it really is a great gigging amp, especially for outdoors and bigger venues. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzin Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Josh James Thanks a bunch. I think I´ll keep it then. Now I just have to decide for another amp. Tiny/dual terror or rebel 20.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh James Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Gotta go with the orange! What cab you using with it? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzin Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I have only had a chance to try the orange, but not the rebel. From the youtube vids I´ve looked at the rebel seems smoother and more versitale, but the terror seem to have a "purer" sound in some way, more clear. This guy make the rebel sound amazing however . I usualy dont play very loud when gigging, but I want to get power tube overdrive, so I like that you can turn down the rebel to one watt. I´m thinking of getting a 1*12 cab. Thomann.de has a cheap 2*12 with celestion vintage 30´s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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