Mr. Robot Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 This has always intrigued me, given it is an old recording with none of todays special effects. Does anyone know how Santana achieved the incredible sustain on the track Europa? My initial thought was he might have used a Big Muff, which was available when he recorded it. Anyone done any research on Santana's rig?
deepblue Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 A sustainer perhaps...something tells me he used to endorse a sustainer many years ago.
djroge1 Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 Guessing here but perhaps a volume pedal too? What year did that song come out?
Mr. Robot Posted June 29, 2010 Author Posted June 29, 2010 Guessing here but perhaps a volume pedal too? What year did that song come out? I am guessing here. Maybe 1978
pippy Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 What year did that song come out? It was on the "Moonflower" double album which came out in '77. In addition to the previous suggestions I'd just add that a lot of the 'sustain' is harmonically induced feedback - so all he needed to do was crank the volume up and be very careful... My initial thought was he might have used a Big Muff' date=' which was available when he recorded it.[/quote'] I seem to remember reading that he did have an E-H Big Muff Pi as well.
jilaw50 Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 I don't know how Santana did it, but here is my solo version with no pedals or effects, just my Gibson ES-345: Audiences love it and it gives my voice a break at every gig.
deepblue Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 does anyone remember the Fernandez sustainer?...I believe thats what they were called. Something tells me Santana used to endorse this product years ago...I may be wrong.
SGSpecialguy Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 I always thought it was tube amps and a compressor that got him there
Murph Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 It's a Boogie. Mines in the flight case and it's still sustaining........
craigh Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 From what I understand, during the sound check, Carlos would move around untill he found the sweet spot & then mark it so he can find it during the show. Craig
The Mick Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 From what I understand' date=' during the sound check, Carlos would move around untill he found the sweet spot & then mark it so he can find it during the show. Craig[/quote'] This is the answer live and in the studio. If you here him live he doesn't always make it the whole length. I had a song with my last band that myself and the singer/guitarist held a feedback note for several verses in a song and we always had to try to find the right spot to be able to pull it off.
LarryUK Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 I used to be able to sustain forever with my LP Custom and my marshalls. All I ever used was an MXR micro amp to boost the input. It's the valves.
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