Mr. Robot Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 This has always intrigued me, given it is an old recording with none of todays special effects. Does anyone know how Santana achieved the incredible sustain on the track Europa? My initial thought was he might have used a Big Muff, which was available when he recorded it. Anyone done any research on Santana's rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 A sustainer perhaps...something tells me he used to endorse a sustainer many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Guessing here but perhaps a volume pedal too? What year did that song come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Robot Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Guessing here but perhaps a volume pedal too? What year did that song come out? I am guessing here. Maybe 1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 What year did that song come out? It was on the "Moonflower" double album which came out in '77. In addition to the previous suggestions I'd just add that a lot of the 'sustain' is harmonically induced feedback - so all he needed to do was crank the volume up and be very careful... My initial thought was he might have used a Big Muff' date=' which was available when he recorded it.[/quote'] I seem to remember reading that he did have an E-H Big Muff Pi as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jilaw50 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I don't know how Santana did it, but here is my solo version with no pedals or effects, just my Gibson ES-345: Audiences love it and it gives my voice a break at every gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 does anyone remember the Fernandez sustainer?...I believe thats what they were called. Something tells me Santana used to endorse this product years ago...I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSpecialguy Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I always thought it was tube amps and a compressor that got him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 It's a Boogie. Mines in the flight case and it's still sustaining........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigh Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 From what I understand, during the sound check, Carlos would move around untill he found the sweet spot & then mark it so he can find it during the show. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 From what I understand' date=' during the sound check, Carlos would move around untill he found the sweet spot & then mark it so he can find it during the show. Craig[/quote'] This is the answer live and in the studio. If you here him live he doesn't always make it the whole length. I had a song with my last band that myself and the singer/guitarist held a feedback note for several verses in a song and we always had to try to find the right spot to be able to pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampa Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Carlos has a special connection with god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I used to be able to sustain forever with my LP Custom and my marshalls. All I ever used was an MXR micro amp to boost the input. It's the valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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