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Hi Guys, long time listener, first time caller. I have an Epiphone Casino (Limited Edition Custom Shop stamped on the back of headstock), the model with the Bigsby. It's a great guitar and I've never had a problem with it. I recently got a Japanese Tele 72 custom reissue and it has some nice Gotoh tuners on it. I've never really modded any guitars, but i was wondering if it would be possible to change the tuners on the Casino over to Gotoh or something like that fairly easily? Would I have to drill any new holes or can i buy some (any decent brand) that are specially built to fit the existing space? Or are the Kluson copies on it good enough as they are?

 

Thank you kindly!

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You can get real klusons.. they'll fit right in.

locking if you want.

chrome gold black

I sell them from WD which has the brand name.

They're made in China now, like about everything, but the quality is excellent. Very vintage good ratio.. solid tuning..

TWANG

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I agree with Lersxt.

 

Whenever I change the strings on either my Casino or ES-330, I rub some number 2 pencil lead in the slots of the nut. My ES has Gibson/Kluson tuners, my Casino has Grovers. Both had tuning issues before the pencil graphite, neither has tuning issues anymore.

 

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another thing to look at is the amount of nut above the string..

it only has to cover 51% of the string, you should be able to feel the string sticking out of the slot.

often they cut the slots and leave the strings deep in the slot.. much more likely to bind..

I angle my nut slots.. trim down the top. and apply pencil lead, too.

smooth fast no pinging when you tune up or down..

 

one thing you can't get around is the ratio..

lower ratios like 12:1 typical of cheaper tuners, make fast tuning and fine tuning a genuine pain in the nether world.

 

the lp100s tuners worked fine. except for that ratio.. you spend more time going up and down trying to hit the spot by far with those things.

 

when I keep cheaper tuners on a guitar. I do the above steps and also tighten the button screws a bit.. otherwise they feel sloppy and floppy and that low ratio makes you zing right by 'tuned'. IOW a firmer tension helps to compensate for a lower ratio.

TWANG

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