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Which Guitar (or GuitarS) should Epiphone discontinue?


charlie brown

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Come on Spud' date=' I always wanted one of thoses glitter les pauls.Stan.[/quote']

 

Hey Stan, techies got a green one at his shop for sale, it plays pretty shweet too! Kinda muddy sounding though.

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I don't think they really need three distinct zakk wylde signitures.

I'd much rather see an epi version of the BJA signature junior, or see how cheap a BFG would be by epiphone.

BFGs are kind of like those ugly bulldog puppies.

So ugly, yet kinda cute, and really badass.

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OK. coming back to this thread.......

 

OK. there should be a hard, fast rule here...

 

There shouldn't be more than 3 models of any given brand or line!!!!

 

I'm serious about this! A cheap one, a middle of the road one in terms of price, and an elite.

 

Now, if they want to make 3 versions of the Explorer, the Flying V, the Casino, the Emperor, or any other guitar?

 

Fine....

 

But just keep it at 3. Other than the signatures, it's getting to the point where there are too many models out there.

 

You don't need 2 versions of the Ultra, 10 additional versions of the Les Paul, and all of these "whatever" flavors of the same guitar.

 

Keep it simple and stupid...Besides, as someone who only sees small samples of what Epiphone has to offer as a whole, I'm sick and tired of 200000 different versions of the Les Pauls being available when it comes at the expense of the other models.

 

Enough already....

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Conspiracy theory: The reason Epi doesn't produce some model/option/finish guitars in large numbers is because Gibson has no desire to create another Melody Maker or Junior phenomenon like with the original ones; i.e., its the guitar everybody buys because its so good. The Elitist line was a test.

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OK. coming back to this thread.......

 

OK. there should be a hard' date=' fast rule here...

 

There shouldn't be more than 3 models of any given brand or line!!!!

 

I'm serious about this! A cheap one, a middle of the road one in terms of price, and an elite.

 

Now, if they want to make 3 versions of the Explorer, the Flying V, the Casino, the Emperor, or any other guitar?

 

Fine....

 

But just keep it at 3. Other than the signatures, it's getting to the point where there are too many models out there.

 

You don't need 2 versions of the Ultra, 10 additional versions of the Les Paul, and all of these "whatever" flavors of the same guitar.

 

Keep it simple and stupid...Besides, as someone who only sees small samples of what Epiphone has to offer as a whole, I'm sick and tired of 200000 different versions of the Les Pauls being available when it comes at the expense of the other models.

 

Enough already....[/quote']

 

Oh, and I'll go ONE STEP FURTHER>....

 

Instead of having all of these stupid models, why not sell PACKAGES with the guitars...you know, just like cars?

 

Example: The Les Pauls...

 

All that is needed: Epiphone Special, Les Paul Standard, and an Elite quality version of the guitar. If they want an "Ultra Package", a "Custom Package", a "Signature package", a "left handed model" or whatever...do it that way.

 

Besides, if it's all trending towards online purchases anyway, this gives the consumer the perception that their guitar is being designed PERSONALLY for them. (and, at the same time? Base models at the store only. If you're going to sell online, you might as well go all the way with it.)

 

Use your heads, people!

 

EDIT: How this would work.

 

1. Customer tries out base model in store. If they buy it? Fine....But, they should be encouraged to go online.

 

2. Customer goes online, and hits website of Gibson/Epiphone distributor (or, Gibson itself) and the customer at that point is directed to specific models of Gibson or Epiphone.

 

3. Customer chooses color of guitar, packages (ultra, maple top, pup types, artist signature version or whatever they want on it.) If it's the lower models vs. the more expensive models, there shouldn't be as many options in terms of packages.

 

4. Once the packages are purchased, and the guitar is ordered, the order is sent to the factory in China. If they have the base models there? Great (which should be the case for the cheaper/low end models.) On the higher end models? Yes, packages will have to be installed as requested.

 

DOWNSIDE: The middle to expensive guitars will take longer to ship. But I don't think this will be as much of an issue because the customer probably expects this in light of how they just "designed" their own guitar.

 

UPSIDE: No excessive stock, no second guessing as to which products might sell. The customer has done all of that work for you. In addition, you will have additional information on that customer which could be used in consideration towards future purposes. (Offer an online questionnaire so there's really a great idea of who is buying Epiphone/Gibson, what they play, and how they heard about the guitars...)

 

2nd EDIT (yes, I'm serious about this...)

 

The logic behind introducing this type of software engine for ordering? Simple...take a look at video games. With many of the games, if the player has equipment, they typically "upgrade" it in a similar manner. They show the model of whatever-it-is they are using, and they get options in terms of what they want. Each associated upgrade has a cost listed right beside the upgrade..

 

It's a system which has already been introduced to the public.....

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Conspiracy theory: The reason Epi doesn't produce some model/option/finish guitars in large numbers is because Gibson has no desire to create another Melody Maker or Junior phenomenon like with the original ones; i.e.' date=' its the guitar everybody buys because its so good. The Elitist line was a test.

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Possibly. But to a degree, I can see this because Gibson is the King, and they've already got a line of guitars out there from the 900 to 1000 dollar range.

 

Yeah, I can see this.....

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I'd actually prefer to see MORE ultras, simply because the guitar is so comfortable to play.

HOWEVER. They shouldn't make an ultra without an ebony fretboard. Take playing comfort all the way.

 

I'd like to see a standard top ultra, a quilt top, one with those new epiphone active pickups they're working on, I like the oddball acoustic settings on the ultra II, so keep that, and then an elitist ultra with every bell and whistle.

I'd love to pick up a standard top ultra with ebony fretboard for about 500 bucks.

 

Also, I'd like to see more somewhat odd guitars anyway, I mean, not BFG odd, but cool, like the ultra II, like the double cut, like the '57 reissue junior.

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Actually, fellas, I'm not a fan of pink or Twisted Sister but those are really great guitars. Seriously. (Heck, they've got BB pickups, for one thing). My brother has one & if they were any other color they'd be near the top of the line. They really are great guitars dispite the pink (which sort of grows on you after a while).

 

I'd kill the LP100 and the $99 LP Junior.

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