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I bought a Dot Studio a couple of months ago and I really dig the guitar and want to put better pickups in it. I need some help deciding what to do. I've heard lots of good things about the GFS pickups and I'm thinking about trying their Mean 90 or maybe their Vintage 59. I play lots of open chords and don't use much overdrive, and I'm also experimenting with more bluesier stuff, like BB King. Am I correct in thinking the p90 pickup are better for a clean tone, and the humbucker would be better with a lot of overdrive? If I was to do a coil tap on the Vintage 59, how would that compare to the Mean 90 in single coil mode?

 

-Nate

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I bought a Dot Studio a couple of months ago and I really dig the guitar and want to put better pickups in it. I need some help deciding what to do. I've heard lots of good things about the GFS pickups and I'm thinking about trying their Mean 90 or maybe their Vintage 59. I play lots of open chords and don't use much overdrive' date=' and I'm also experimenting with more bluesier stuff, like BB King. Am I correct in thinking the p90 pickup are better for a clean tone, and the humbucker would be better with a lot of overdrive? If I was to do a coil tap on the Vintage 59, how would that compare to the Mean 90 in single coil mode?

 

-Nate[/quote']

 

I'd say sine you have 2 pickups, go with both!

 

The mean 90 is better with a little overdrive, since it has that bite.

The Vintage 59 is better with alot of overdrive, and chugging rhythmn.

 

I went with 59 neck, 90 bridge.

 

Perfect.

 

I don't think you'll need a coil tap.

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I, too have a Dot Studio and basically play clean rhythm. The main culprit on the Dot Studios is the hot bridge pickup - nice, brown mud. Sounds to me that you'd be happy with either the PAF-type or the P90-type. Go to the Seymour Duncan's site's samples and compare their PAF to the Phat Cat - that may give you some feel. I've heard that the combo of both types is cool but I have no ears-on experience. I've also heard that coil taps in single coil mode sound very thin.

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A P90 lover, I've used the Dream 90 on several projects. Among the HB retrofits, they are among the top two, and the price is unbeatable. If you've never used P90s, be prepared for a very versatile sound. For jazz use when rolled down, they can be very creamy. For blues and rock, they're quite thick, and down right greasy. On my latest, a series of Specials I've used the Dream 90 in combination with HBs. Here's a pic of my Special Limited.

 

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Originally, intended to replace both pups with Dream90s, but the stock neck is just so gnarly, I couldn't bring myself to pull it. However there is some contention between the two. In the lead position, it sounds like an old Junior, think Leslie West. In the neck, it is very much old National, think Jimmy Reed. Together, it takes some dialing in, good sound yet unique. I'm not going to change it.

 

So considering a match between an HB and a 90 takes a little more prep. My other project is a Gibson faded special. I put an old open coil alnico 490T (from an SG) in the bridge, and a Dream 90 in the neck. Much less contention, and the tone is unreal. It sounds like a cross between an old Special and a dark SG Standard. Extremely versatile. For me, this is a perfect match. Wish I had a pic, but the guitar is currently stripped for refinishing.

 

Believe in your application, the Dream 90 would sound like a Casino neck. However, you may find the 59 too bright, but could be re-managed with some capacitor tweaks.

 

Jay and the guys at GFS are great. I'd run your idea by them and see what they say. They've given me some great advice in the past.

 

You might also want to consider putting a GFS 180 in the neck. I think that would be a great match-up in a hollow body.

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Avant que vous mangent de le fromage' date=' est-ce-qu'il faut coupez le fromage? =D> [/quote']

 

oui...pull my finger.

 

 

 

So right now I'm leaning toward 2 of the dream 90's or maybe a PAF style in the neck and the 90 in the bridge. I really appreciate the input I'm getting. Is the 180 a more modern tone?

 

-Nate

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Now which is best for a dot dream 90 or mean 90?

 

I'd like to know too. I've been accidentally using the 2 interchangeably it looks like.

 

The GFS website says this: "The Dreams are more modern sounding and overdrive an amp with a decided CRUNCH- The Means are smoother- warmer, fuller and a tad louder. If you like Vintage Tones and really want to FEEL your pick attack on the strings- I think the mean 90 may be the best pickup currently available."

 

Going by that I think I'm going to try the Mean 90.

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If i go with the dream 90's' date=' will they sound right with the stock pots? I hear the electronics are pretty lousy on these things and i'm thinking it might be a good idea to replace them while i'm at it.[/quote']

 

You may as well change the pots, I have just changed them on my Sheraton II as I put in a pair of Gibson Classic '59s and it is worth it - you will laugh at the pathetic excuses for epiphone pots that come out of your Dot! Although, getting better pots back inside those F holes is a bit of a challenge! But it is certainly do-able!

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IIRC the Dream 180 was supposed to be a P90ish pickup with some PAF sound in it.

My opinion: thin, wimpy, some twang.

 

The Mean 90 is from another planet compared to the 180, got a pair of them in my Dot and I'm happy.

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Don't waste your time. I tried them and they were the only GFS pickups that I didn't like. They were very bland. I wound up selling them on Ebay. I've also tried the Vintage 59s and P-90. I highly recommend both.

 

I agree and I would go with both 59's or both mean 90's..........I think one of each is a bit of a mismatch unless that's what you are after.

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I agree and I would go with both 59's or both mean 90's..........I think one of each is a bit of a mismatch unless that's what you are after.

 

Heh, I love mismatches.

Apparently so do alot of buyers, seeing as the hating on the gibby faded SG for having 2 490's instead of a 490/498.

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