dbirchett Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I am considering adding a Bigsby to my "new" Sheraton. I am looking at the B-7 (American) and the B-70 (imported) models. Has anyone done any sort of comparison? Are they equally reliable (or unreliable for that matter)? The B-70 mounting tab has three holes to the five on the B-7 (four screws plus the end pin). Does that present a mounting problem? Does the bottom screw match up with the end pin on the Sheraton? Any recommedations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 They're going to be about the same in the end analysis. You'll save some $$$ with the B70. As to the end pin, well, you may have to re-drill that to match the hole in the Bigsby although the B-7 has a slot that allows more leeway in that respect. However since you're about to drill a whole whack of new holes in your guitar, having to drill another one for the end pin is kind of moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I put a B-70 on my Dot. Like RotcanX said, I had to drill a new hole for the end pin on my Dot, not a big deal. I have done no side by side comparison, but I have no complaints about my B-70. It works great. I put a roller bridge on also, got it from stewmac. It stays in tune pretty good. They are really fairly easy to install. I've been thinking about doing the same to my Sherraton, but I'm not sure if I want to keep the hardware gold, so I'm holding off for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71Dee-Luxe Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I went for the B7 and roller bridge. It was a little more than the B70, but I felt it was worth it, given the moving parts could affect tuning stability, yada yada yada. But the bigger reason I did it was I wanted my Straplok end pin to fit without needing to move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well, I bought a B7 off of Ebay yesterday, so I have decided that my ebony Sheraton will have a Bigsby. One thing that did inspire me was this picture of this beautiful guitar! Â Â Another question. The ground wire now goes to one of the posts for the tailpiece to ground the strings, right? I assume that now it has to go to the Bigsby. Are there tricks of the trade to do this? Â If I put on a roller bridge, am I going to have problems finding one? My Sheraton was made by Unsung. Does anyone know if the GFS roller bridge fits these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Â _More curious about Bigsby , read this : http://www.bigsbyguitars.com/faq.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Â The ground wire now goes to one of the posts for the tailpiece to ground the strings' date=' right? I assume that now it has to go to the Bigsby. Are there tricks of the trade to do this? Â If I put on a roller bridge, am I going to have problems finding one? My Sheraton was made by Unsung. Does anyone know if the GFS roller bridge fits these?[/quote'] Â The ground wire goes to the bridge so you don't have anything to worry about. I did a roller bridge on my Dot too, but I got it from stewmac. I think it is the same bridge though. I have no tuning problems with mine. The B7 should be an easier mount because of not having to redrill the end strap pin. I want to see some pics when it is done. That will probably put me over the edge to put one on my Sherry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcbc Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I did this to my sherry too. it came out great. i went with the b7 but in silver i have gold hardwear and i counld not find a gold bigsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 OK, the Bigsby came today. Beautiful! Â First problem. The string peg for the sixth peg is missing. Just a hole in the roller where it should go in. I don't suppose that's going to be too hard to replace but if anyone has one of the little babies lying around, please give me a shout. Â Second problem. The end (strap) pin. The one I'm supposed to use to center the Bigsby is roughly 1/2 inch off center to the treble side. Wow! One reason I wanted the B7 was that I thought it would be easier to center with the big oval cutout. Now I have to relocate the end pin. Not exactly rocket science but it's a step I didn't think I would have to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwillow777 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 OK' date=' the Bigsby came today. Beautiful! Â First problem. The string peg for the sixth peg is missing. Just a hole in the roller where it should go in. I don't suppose that's going to be too hard to replace but if anyone has one of the little babies lying around, please give me a shout. Â Second problem. The end (strap) pin. The one I'm supposed to use to center the Bigsby is roughly 1/2 inch off center to the treble side. Wow! One reason I wanted the B7 was that I thought it would be easier to center with the big oval cutout. Now I have to relocate the end pin. Not exactly rocket science but it's a step I didn't think I would have to take. [/quote'] Â If it is missing the peg I would send it back. I don't know where you got it or how it was advertised, but everything should be working. You shouldn't have to fix something on it unless they advertised that it had something wrong or was missing some parts. Â It would be a lot easier to line up if the end pin fits in the hole in the B-70, but mine didn't either, still for the money I saved I figured I could work around that. Just fill the old hole and drill a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I did this to my sherry too. it came out great. i went with the b7 but in silver i have gold hardwear and i counld not find a gold bigsby. Â Next time you could try http://elderly.com/brand/BIGSBY.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Just heard from the seller. Although this was sold as a display model, he is going to get a new one to send to me as a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdeluxe Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 That's cool. Both Stewart-McDonald and Elderly sell gold Bigsbys. Â I have a Sheraton II that I got as a byproduct of some horse trading I've been doing to replace my heavy old gear with newer, lighter stuff (tally so far: started with 575 lb of amps, now have less than 100 lb). It's a pretty natural finish '98 that I figure I'll use when we play amplified music at church -- ordinarily I play Dobro, but sometimes the music director gets a wild hair. Â Seymour Duncan Jazz neck pickup, JB bridge, new pots and switch, and I replaced the black plastic with creme, took off the tacky pickguard. So I'm very tempted to add a Bigsby. I played a Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gent for 15 years, and I miss the whammy. Â Especially after looking at that black beauty. Is yours that finish? If so it'll be a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 "Black Beauty"? Yes indeed. I posted these pictures under another thread but I can copy them here. I have so far changed out the knobs, pickguard and brace. The Bigsby, bridge, truss rod cover and tuning buttons will come next. Stay tuned. Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdeluxe Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I see that yours has different knobs also. I don't know why Gibson puts those ugly "amber" knobs on. I notice that most of the current Gibson ES-335 models use similar ones. Â Very pretty, even though I'm a fan of natural. Â By the way, the link I posted to Flickr will work if you copy and paste the entire url...don't know why it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimangelle Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well' date=' I bought a B7 off of Ebay yesterday, so I have decided that my ebony Sheraton will have a Bigsby. One thing that did inspire me was this picture of this beautiful guitar! [img']http://images.miretail.com/products/optionlarge/GibsonMemphis/423737jpg.jpg[/img]  Another question. The ground wire now goes to one of the posts for the tailpiece to ground the strings, right? I assume that now it has to go to the Bigsby. Are there tricks of the trade to do this?  If I put on a roller bridge, am I going to have problems finding one? My Sheraton was made by Unsung. Does anyone know if the GFS roller bridge fits these?    do YOU know where this guitar came from? bigsby does NOT make a chrome B7  where is this guitar from advise thanks jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 The guitar was a Gibson ES-356, I believe. The Bigsby, I believe, is actually gold. You are right that they do not make a chrome plated B7, it is aluminum and I think it looks better than Chrome. Â Â My Sheraton pictures above have evidently been moved (oops found them again). This one shows the Bigsby fairly well. Its about to get a Chet arm. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Now that I look at the Gibson a little more closely, it may well be a B70 but you still don't have chrome plating. Â Â I'm judging this by the lack of the raised lettering under the Bigsby name and the sharper edges and corners on the Bigsby name. But I may well be wrong. Its happened before and it will probably happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjael Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Now that I look at the Gibson a little more closely' date=' it may well be a B70 but you still don't have chrome plating.<pic> I'm judging this by the lack of the raised lettering under the Bigsby name and the sharper edges and corners on the Bigsby name. But I may well be wrong. Its happened before and it will probably happen again.[/quote'] That one on the gibson doesn't say 'Licensed' underneath the Bigsby logo. Ergo, it's a B7. Â The B70 and B700 are outsourced and thus 'Licensed.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Helliday Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Sjael speaks truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbirchett Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Sjael, you may well be right. I do not see the "Licensed" label under the "Bigsby." But I also don't see the patent information that would be there on the B7. The other features looked more like a B70 to me and the "Licensed" would be easier to conceal or just not be able to see than the patent information. On the other hand why would Gibson skimp on this expensive of a guitar? Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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