snookelputz Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Sometimes you start to reply before someone else, but actually post afterward. The H-100's in the Billie Joe Armstrong can be said to hum less than some P-90's, same as some P-90's, more than some P-90's. At least that is my experience with uh, about 8 P-90 guitars in the same amp. And the mid's are scooped. I think they sound more like Jazzmasters than P-90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I may be in hum city when I try to use the '56 Goldtop I ordered this week. I stand right in front of the amp due to limited space on the stage. I was hoping that the noise gate in the amp would kill the hum. Anyone used a P90 goldtop with an ADVT series amp? Did it kill the hum? Did you have to adjust the noise gate threshold from default? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Well' date=' Fender's 'noiseless' pickups use the exact same strategy as the P-100, i.e. two coils, one stacked on top of the other and hooked up in series out of phase. And they don't sound quite 'right' either. Has anyone ever tried the SD stacked P-90? I think it's a question of two mutually exclusive goals. Basically, to get rid of the hum, you have to turn the pickup into a humbucker... at which point it's going to start [i']sounding[/i] like a humbucker. Actually I think it's a little different then that... Or I might be thinking of lace sensors, or GFS Neovins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Well I like them in the Valensi' date=' and it doesn't hum like my 2 Casinos. I don't know about the hum cancelling though. My Valensi sounds like a very articluate 335, very similar to my Riviera with Duncan minis. [/quote'] Well isn't that a semi-hollow? A whole block of wood shields noise better than just about anything you can put in a hollowbody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 And yet, my double cut LP's P-90's "soap bars," are more noisy than my Casino's "dog ears." ??? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 And yet' date=' my double cut LP's P-90's "soap bars," are more noisy than my Casino's "dog ears." ??? CB[/quote'] Check the grounding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Check the grounding? Yeah, I did that...everything seems in order. And, as I said, it's pretty quiet...after the shielding, in the "clean" mode. But, with ANY distortion added, the noise level goes way up! But, thanks for the thought, Ian. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah' date=' I did that...everything seems in order. And, as I said, it's pretty quiet...after the shielding, in the "clean" mode. But, with ANY distortion added, the noise level goes way up! But, thanks for the thought, Ian. CB[/quote'] Hmmm. Have you tried changing the angle of how you stand versus the amp, and the headstock versus the ground? I've found on my single coil guitars, it makes a big difference. It's hard to rip out a solo while keeping in the same position, but then again the hum shouldn't bother you during then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 It's just the nature of the beast.......adding a coil like the p-100 does just wrecks all of the p-90 mojo IMHO......kinda like comparing Bud Light to a quality imported beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 ....kinda like comparing Bud Light to a quality imported beer! Correction: InBev Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Correction: InBev Light It's funny, yesterday I would have had no idea what this comment meant. But this morning I saw a news story talking about the merger of AB and InBev. I never thought Budweiser would be owned by a foreign country. Ya live, and ya learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah, makes one wonder if there really IS (anything) "American" anymore?! Except, maybe, that most "American" (and human) penchant for putting money ahead of everything else? Ooops..."off topic" editorial statement! Buzzzzzzzzzzz! LOL! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hmmm. Have you tried changing the angle of how you stand versus the amp' date=' and the headstock versus the ground? I've found on my single coil guitars, it makes a big difference. It's hard to rip out a solo while keeping in the same position, but then again the hum shouldn't bother you during then.[/quote'] Yeah, Ian...I do that little "dance" regularly! LOL! And, you're right...while actually playing, it's not noticable...just the dead spots, in between. I just think there has to be some way, of adding another coil, like the P-100, but retaining the P-90's wonderful tone! Overwinding or underwinding, or different wire, or "whatever?!" LOL! We walked on the Moon, for Christ's sake, don't tell me they can't make a noiseless P-90! This is AMERICA! LOL!!! (0r, at least...it WAS?!) ;>b CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah' date=' Ian...I do that little "dance" regularly! LOL! And, you're right...while actually playing, it's not noticable...just the dead spots, in between. I just think there has to be some way, of adding another coil, like the P-100, but retaining the P-90's wonderful tone! Overwinding or underwinding, or different wire, or "whatever?!" LOL! We walked on the Moon, for Christ's sake, don't tell me they can't make a noiseless P-90! This is AMERICA! LOL!!! (0r, at least...it WAS?!) ;>b CB[/quote'] Be careful there CB ...we got political with the Inbev stuff and you just included religion....we're in trouble now I can feel it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Be careful there CB ...we got political with the Inbev stuff and you just included religion....we're in trouble now I can feel it! [/quote'] LOL! Yeah, layboomo, no doubt! But, I'll try to get us back on topic, and in safer waters! Thanks! ;>) CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 So...to do that...are there any "electricians" or electrical engineers, on this forum, that could explain why "single coils" can't be made "noiseless?" Dummy wires/coils, etc., WITHOUT adversely effecting tone. Different magnets, maybe, or different windings (both amount and wire guages)? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So...to do that...are there any "electricians" or electrical engineers' date=' on this forum, that could explain why "single coils" can't be made "noiseless?" Dummy wires/coils, etc., WITHOUT adversely effecting tone. Different magnets, maybe, or different windings (both amount and wire guages)? CB[/quote'] Ceramic magnets and gold windings and individually adjustable magnets for each pole and a bronzed polepiece and a dummy wire in each under an alnico magnet, may get it way down. Ceramic magnet=More power in less windings Gold= extremely low impedance Bronze=Best electrical shielder Individual adjustment-overcome any shortcomings from the combination Dummy wire-Smallest affect on tone as possible while reducing hum. Problem is, does anyone want a $500 pickup that requires a MIT diploma to set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskank Sally Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 P-90's with No Hum? Lace Alumitone P-90 Do The Research because I won't explain again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shartom Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 The P90's in my 56 Reissue hum when I am close to my amp. It can be minimized if I change my stance relative to the amp. That's the way it is with single coil pickups. My 65 Tele, original does the same thing. You have to learn to live with pickups. To get feedback on a hollow body, you must be playing at a wicked volume and be standing in front of your amp. My Sheraton has never fed back. My Joe Pass used to do it from time to time, until I turned down the bass on the amp, although when it did feedback it was kind of neat as long as you kept the guitar from blowing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcooper830 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Man I LOVE my Epi '56 reissue gold top!!! But I couldn't deal with the hum and feedback of the stock P90s now matter how much I like their tone. I couldn't use the guitar at my gigs cause I play at higher volume and gain levels. So I installed a set of these Seymour Duncan STK-P1 P90s and I'm EXTREMELY happy with 'em!! http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seymour-Duncan-STKP1-Stacked-P90-SingleCoil-Pickup?sku=300052 Here's a video clip of the guitar with the new pickups: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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