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How about a P-90 WITHOUT the "Hum?"


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Sometimes you start to reply before someone else, but actually post afterward.

 

The H-100's in the Billie Joe Armstrong can be said to hum less than some P-90's, same as some P-90's, more than some P-90's. At least that is my experience with uh, about 8 P-90 guitars in the same amp. And the mid's are scooped. I think they sound more like Jazzmasters than P-90's.

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I may be in hum city when I try to use the '56 Goldtop I ordered this week. I stand right in front of the amp due to limited space on the stage. I was hoping that the noise gate in the amp would kill the hum. Anyone used a P90 goldtop with an ADVT series amp? Did it kill the hum? Did you have to adjust the noise gate threshold from default?

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Well' date=' Fender's 'noiseless' pickups use the exact same strategy as the P-100, i.e. two coils, one stacked on top of the other and hooked up in series out of phase. And they don't sound quite 'right' either. Has anyone ever tried the SD stacked P-90?

 

I think it's a question of two mutually exclusive goals. Basically, to get rid of the hum, you have to turn the pickup into a humbucker... at which point it's going to start [i']sounding[/i] like a humbucker.

 

Actually I think it's a little different then that...

Or I might be thinking of lace sensors, or GFS Neovins....

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Well I like them in the Valensi' date=' and it doesn't hum like my 2 Casinos. I don't know about the hum cancelling though.

 

My Valensi sounds like a very articluate 335, very similar to my Riviera with Duncan minis. [/quote']

Well isn't that a semi-hollow?

A whole block of wood shields noise better than just about anything you can put in a hollowbody.

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Yeah' date=' I did that...everything seems in order.

And, as I said, it's pretty quiet...after the shielding,

in the "clean" mode. But, with ANY distortion added,

the noise level goes way up! But, thanks for the

thought, Ian.

 

CB[/quote']

Hmmm.

 

Have you tried changing the angle of how you stand versus the amp, and the headstock versus the ground?

I've found on my single coil guitars, it makes a big difference. It's hard to rip out a solo while keeping in the same position, but then again the hum shouldn't bother you during then.

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Correction: InBev Light

It's funny, yesterday I would have had no idea what this comment meant. But this morning I saw a news story talking about the merger of AB and InBev.

I never thought Budweiser would be owned by a foreign country.

Ya live, and ya learn.

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Hmmm.

 

Have you tried changing the angle of how you stand versus the amp' date=' and the headstock versus the ground?

I've found on my single coil guitars, it makes a big difference. It's hard to rip out a solo while keeping in the same position, but then again the hum shouldn't bother you during then.[/quote']

 

Yeah, Ian...I do that little "dance" regularly! LOL! And, you're right...while actually

playing, it's not noticable...just the dead spots, in between. I just think there has

to be some way, of adding another coil, like the P-100, but retaining the P-90's

wonderful tone! Overwinding or underwinding, or different wire, or "whatever?!" LOL!

We walked on the Moon, for Christ's sake, don't tell me they can't make a noiseless

P-90! This is AMERICA! LOL!!! (0r, at least...it WAS?!) ;>b

 

CB

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Yeah' date=' Ian...I do that little "dance" regularly! LOL! And, you're right...while actually

playing, it's not noticable...just the dead spots, in between. I just think there has

to be some way, of adding another coil, like the P-100, but retaining the P-90's

wonderful tone! Overwinding or underwinding, or different wire, or "whatever?!" LOL!

We walked on the Moon, for Christ's sake, don't tell me they can't make a noiseless

P-90! This is AMERICA! LOL!!! (0r, at least...it WAS?!) ;>b

 

CB[/quote']

Be careful there CB ...we got political with the Inbev stuff and you just included religion....we're in trouble now I can feel it!=P~

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Be careful there CB ...we got political with the Inbev stuff and you just included religion....we're in trouble now I can feel it!](* [/quote']

 

 

LOL! Yeah, layboomo, no doubt! But, I'll try to get us back on topic, and in safer waters!

Thanks! ;>)

 

CB

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So...to do that...are there any "electricians" or electrical engineers, on this forum, that could

explain why "single coils" can't be made "noiseless?" Dummy wires/coils, etc., WITHOUT adversely

effecting tone. Different magnets, maybe, or different windings (both amount and wire guages)?

 

CB

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So...to do that...are there any "electricians" or electrical engineers' date=' on this forum, that could

explain why "single coils" can't be made "noiseless?" Dummy wires/coils, etc., WITHOUT adversely

effecting tone. Different magnets, maybe, or different windings (both amount and wire guages)?

 

CB[/quote']

 

Ceramic magnets and gold windings and individually adjustable magnets for each pole and a bronzed polepiece and a dummy wire in each under an alnico magnet, may get it way down.

Ceramic magnet=More power in less windings

Gold= extremely low impedance

Bronze=Best electrical shielder

Individual adjustment-overcome any shortcomings from the combination

Dummy wire-Smallest affect on tone as possible while reducing hum.

 

Problem is, does anyone want a $500 pickup that requires a MIT diploma to set up?

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The P90's in my 56 Reissue hum when I am close to my amp. It can be minimized if I change my stance relative to the amp. That's the way it is with single coil pickups. My 65 Tele, original does the same thing.

You have to learn to live with pickups.

To get feedback on a hollow body, you must be playing at a wicked volume and be standing in front of your amp. My Sheraton has never fed back. My Joe Pass used to do it from time to time, until I turned down the bass on the amp, although when it did feedback it was kind of neat as long as you kept the guitar from blowing up.

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Man I LOVE my Epi '56 reissue gold top!!!

 

But I couldn't deal with the hum and feedback of the stock P90s now matter how much I like their tone.

 

I couldn't use the guitar at my gigs cause I play at higher volume and gain levels.

 

So I installed a set of these Seymour Duncan STK-P1 P90s and I'm EXTREMELY happy with 'em!!

 

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seymour-Duncan-STKP1-Stacked-P90-SingleCoil-Pickup?sku=300052

 

Here's a video clip of the guitar with the new pickups:

 

 

 

 

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