matiac Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Just curious is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I said "no" because I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of average Joe's are either completely satisfied with their Epi's or totally unaware of the mod scene. I figger most who are dissatisfied will assume they would need to go for a more expensive guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Any specifics/ideas? What were you thinking of doing to it? From here it looks like a nice guitar, as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sentry Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 It depends on the model. And, what kind of hardware it has, and whether or not it was lemon-y out of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'm not going to do anything FURTHER to mine. Christ, it's got so much Gibson stuff on it now, it may as well be one. Nah, just curious, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Any specifics/ideas? What were you thinking of doing to it? From here it looks like a nice guitar' date=' as is.[/quote'] I don't think Mat was talking about his guitar - it's just another dumb hypothetical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I don't think Mat was talking about his guitar - it's just another dumb hypothetical question. Ah, I see. His sig pic threw me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 I don't think Mat was talking about his guitar - it's just another dumb hypothetical question. Easy killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Easy killer. Will you forgive me if I give you a free pretzel with mustid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Killmore Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I would say go for it. Just keep all of the original parts so you can swap them back if you ever decide to sell the guitar. You will never get back what you put into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Perhaps not 'necessary' but a good idea nonetheless. I dunno how to vote on this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelodyMaker1 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 (Hmm..):D A average Joe, that's me. I say modify because even though us average joes don't know jack about tone, or vintage tone, or even what tone we are going for. But, we have heard so much about the inferiority of the Epiphone line that we are looking to add something even though we don't know what. Just looking to give it something of a so-called perceived quality component. (i.e. better pickups, or pots) Something so we can say it's not just a stock Epiphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelake07 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I want my guitar to be the best it can be as I plan to keep it a long time, so that means modifications. This is a hobby for me and performing mods to the guitars and amps can be fun. There were never any (to my knowledge) lefty Kalamazoo Casinos and no Elites so if I want a higher-quality Casino I have to do it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper1281734000 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I said no because it is not necessary to modufy a guitar, just a personal preference. I would consider the average joe someone who plays guitar for fun, and DOESN'T use this forum. Sorry, this forum causes way to much GAS and pressure to modify a guitar, if an average joe showed up here, they would probably start modding there guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEPI Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I voted NO, but add this caveat.... IMO. After the setup is correct with neck, intonation, action, tuning pegs etc., you have to play your guitar on stage to really know if its necessary to modify and more than likely that will be a pup or amp deal, to get the "tone" necessary to allow you to play all night without apprehension. (none of that relates to cosmetics). On the other hand, studio work, depending on how it gets to the recording head could be a different issue, id est, the settings you use on stage, can be drastically different from what you might use in the studio. Learning how to use TONE KNOBS/POTS correctly on stage as well as in the studio is an absolute....J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Strum Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I voted yes, but personally I wouldn't do it because at the moment 1) I wouldn't know what sound I was looking for. 2) I never did it, but obviously there is always a first time. 3) I see people buy low end guitars and by the time they are done with the mods, they have about as much wrapped up in them as what it would cost for a new one like the one they modded. 4) Most times I purchase a guitar for it's sound that it has at time of purchase. If ends up I don't like the sound or grow tired of it, I sell it. Probably more reasons why I wouldn't, but I guess those are the main reasons. Now why I voted yes - to each, their own. Some people are born tinkerers, I'm not one of those. However, I think it is interesting when one has that desire and ability to change something that results in an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I've toyed with this same question. Thing is, I like my guitars as they are because I don't play them out of the apartment much. Having no comparisons to envy, and having no problems with them = nothing gets done. So maybe that's good, but I'd like to participate in this conversation anyway. Once I played my all-stock, bolt-on neck G-310 (is that right? I just had a brain freeze) Junior, in my old practice hall. The guitar plays great and I was loving the sound through the big amps and effects! Then my friend showed up with his old Gibson SG with whatever stock pickups were in it. The depth of that sound was much greater, much more rich, better in every way. So I decided I should change pickups. I never did, and quickly lost the perspective that the on-the-spot comparison gave me. (I'm still thinking of getting a GFS loudmouth for that guitar. It's a newer Junior, with a stock Epi humbucker). My other Junior (LP) is older and has the P-90. I have no desire to change that pickup. The tuners on both guitars have never given me any problems. In fact, I'm often amazed at how consistantly those cheap little guitars stay in tune, through all the crazy weather, moving, etc. But I do occasionally get the urge to 'treat' the G310/SG Junior, at least. -Upgrade everything and it would be my own custom job. I like to do something to a guitar to make it mine, in a sense. I'm not above a tastefully evil sticker, on the plastic back panel. But so far, no new pickups, don't need tuners... Hmmm... I did pop some chrome Tele-style knobs on the SG Junior though. Just to make it a bit different, and get rid of the cheaper looking plastic ones. Same thing with modding my EB-O bass: I want to, but haven't really. It's a rock! A monster! Plays great, has the "Epi" logo inlaid instead of a decal, and it has that cool open-book headstock, which I like. I want to customize it somehow, give it the best. But hey, the tuners are totally stable, the bridge is intonatable, intonation is fine anyway. And it's got that "mudbucker" single Sidewinder pickup. What would even fit in there? That is one strange looking pickup. (Any info about this would be appreciated. I already got a bit from the bass forum, but that place is pretty deserted.) The only thing I can think that might need replacing on the EB-O is the plastic nut. Oh, my avatar is a close-up of my EB-O. That's a bathroom tile I stuck on there, between the single neck pickup and the bridge. So, that's my rant. If anyone has comments or suggestions, cool. But I don't mean to steer this topic in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Modding is fine if that is your choice but it shouldn't be necessary to gain a functional guitar. In Australia we pay almost twice for the same Epiphone as our cousins in the States and they are therefore not a "cheap" guitar here. For the prices we pay the product should NOT require a pickup change, new switches and electronics nor any of the other upgrades many find are necessary to obtain a good sound (accepting that good is subjective) or a reliable product. Would you be so ready to shell out for a new set of PUPS had you payed twice the price for your guitar? I love my Epi guitars but am forced to look elsewhere because there are products that are at least equal (some say better), but are half the Epiphone price. There are number of Epiphone guitars I would like but not at these prices. Why do I keep harping on this same subject? Simply because I keep hoping that Gibson will listen and make some changes. Looking at the way the moderation is carried out it is probably a forlorn hope however. Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recycled Rocker Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I said no, however it's seems like a personal choice. I have a second hand Epi Flying V comming which I will do some mods to just to "give it some different character" I haven't done any mods to all my new ones as I like their sound from the start. Personal choice..... Just me......... Cheers RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Strum Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Oh, and for me it is - I need to learn how to really play it, before I start changing it. Admittedly, I suck at playing guitar, but I am having a blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Voted no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Killmore Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Oh' date=' and for me it is - I need to learn how to really play it, before I start changing it. Admittedly, I suck at playing guitar, but I am having a blast.[/quote'] Just Strum, for some reason I keep reading your posts with Groucho Marx voice in my head. You're killing me man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I don't think it's necessary at all. Despite my time here, I've managed not to modify any of my guitars. They all play well, and I can't even begin to think how I'd want to make them better. The only one I can imagine doing anything to is the Strat, since I'm considering "blocking" the tremolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkwire Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Pretty much all of my guitars are modded. I like to put my little personal touch on them. Speaking of 'personal touch'...sorry I'm so tardy responding to this poll. I was on an involuntary 24-hour vacation from the forum. That'll teach me to have an opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookelputz Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Its always personal. Even if you don't want to make it better, make it YOURS! Do something. Change the strings, cut a slot in the binding where you can store a pick. Engrave all the plastic with smiley faces. Give it a name. Show love for your equipment, and your equipment will show off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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