poverty Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 This has been talked about already but i can't find the thread. Put gfs mean 90's neck and bridge in my Dot, sound great but they hum. Playing through a EVJ and a Fuzz Face makes it worse. I fiddled around with the ground a bit but still nothing to get rid of the .."aaaannnggg!!!" comming fomr the amp when not playing. Any solutions other then replacing them with classic '59's? thanx in advance. POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Sheilding, or "Faraday's cage" around the pickups will help. But, they're Single Coil, so they'll hum! And, distortion will make it worse. Most people just put up with it, in trade off, for P-90 tone! It drives me crazy, too...but, I had my P-90 guitars all shielded, and it did help! But, any time I turn on the overdrives, or distortion pedals, it augments it, considerably. :>( Nature of the beast! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poverty Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 what about that device you can plug your amp into and then plug into the socket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Strum Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 This has been talked about already but i can't find the thread.Put gfs mean 90's neck and bridge in my Dot' date=' sound great but they hum. Playing through a EVJ and a Fuzz Face makes it worse. I fiddled around with the ground a bit but still nothing to get rid of the .."aaaannnggg!!!" comming fomr the amp when not playing. Any solutions other then replacing them with classic '59's? thanx in advance. POV.[/quote'] Play Star Spangled Banner - Hendrix style, it will blend right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. E Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I have that problem too and i just removed by bridge studs and replace them. i dont know if that is what is causing it or maybe i just started the noise that was there along time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Gibson makes P-100's (like P-90's with humbucking extra coil), but they aren't exactly the same tone! Kind of in-between humbuckers and P-90's. Duncan also make a "stacked P-90" that's along the same lines. But, "purists" will argue, that if you want "True" P-90 tone, you have to use the single coils. I have guitars with P-100's, and I like those pickups, for THEIR tone...again, they are not the same, as a true, single coil, P-90 in tone. But, can be pretty close, at times. And, maybe the quietness is enough compromise, for you? That would be your decision... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Don't they make a reverse-wound neck P-90? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Don't they make a reverse-wound neck P-90? Mean 90's are that way. Hey, Poverty, does the hum decrease when switched to both pickups? If not, maybe something else is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poverty Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 ya it goes down bit with both pup's on, but that's the way i normaly play. I just wan't to make sure that other people have to put up with the same bullshit for the tone they give. i was thinking of replacing my fuzz face with an MI audio blues pro overdrive to fix the problem. Butthat won't get rid of teh hum.......... just allow me to adjust the tone of the hum..... What an expensive habbit we have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Since you appear to be into distortion/overdrive, perhaps P90s aren't what you really want/need anyway. Humbuckers are better suited for those sounds. If you're within the 60-day exchange window, you can return them to Guitar Fetish and get something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poverty Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 i was thinking that myself. Although, the window has passed. i think i should have got the classic '59's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Nazarenie Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 will a noise gate do anything on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 A noise gate will definitely help with P90 hum, but you can overdrive to the point where you have to increase the NG more and more to the point where you lose the end of the sustain in a note. In terms of high distortion, this is true even with humbuckers. When I play my Epi Goldtop with P90s or my Strat, the noise gate does an excellent job of getting rid of the hum, and I stand right in front of the amp when I perform. When I turn around to make an adjustment and get with 1 foot of the amp, I can hear the hum, because it gets loud enough to break over the noise gate. I would try the noise gate in a music store with your guitar if I were you and see if it does what you expect. Provided that you can switch in and out with the high gain effect and do so when you need to solo, you can control the hum and start and stop within the song, where the noise isn't an issue. It's usually audible between songs and not an issue once the music starts. I usually drive my guitar to the point where heavy picking breaks over into disortion, kind of a heavy blues type sound. When I need more, I kick in the Tube Screamer. My Vox Ad50VT 2-12 has no hum at any time, due to the built in noise gate, unless I walk right up to the amp and put the pickups a foot away from the speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 How about one of them "dummy coils" I hear quite a bit about? Aren't they supposed to suppress hum in a single coil application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I don't have a major hum problem with my p90s because I play with an fx/amp-sim/direct-box straight through the pa. However when practicing at home, I sometimes use a little 15w amp and if I stand too close to the amp, it hums, especially if the computer is on and the floor fan is on (I don't use A.C. in my home). Turning the guitar so that it is at right angles to the amp helps, as well as moving farther from it, turning off florescent lights and other electrical gear that interferes with it. In the places I gig, the rooms are so noisy that the minimal hum I get is drowned out by the ambient room noise. I dearly love the p90 tone, especially when playing clean (which I do a lot of), so the hum is just something I minimize and then put up with. But we all play in different situations, different kinds of music, and have different ideas as to what we want our guitars to sound like. If you come up with a solution to your problem, please share it with is. Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Nazarenie Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 i have heard about using an eq pedal or the like and turning down the humming frequency. but it may ruin your tone. or a cheap fx unit will have a noise gate. i got a vamp 2 for £25 all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shartom Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 If I stand facing my Blues Deluxe, and am not playing, I get the hum. I try and stand far enough ou in front of the amp and if necessary stand at an angle to the amp. That is about the only way to minimize it. I knew that before I bought my 56 so it did not come as a suprise. I played in an old church in the country about a month ago. It was a jazz gig so I took my Gibby LP Studio. It hummed worse that the 56. It is somthing you either live with or go crazy. Somthing else that will give you a nice hum is placing effects on the top of your amp. A lot of electronics these day generate noise which shows up as 60 Hz hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Minihums are between P-90 and humbuckers for sound, brighter, more bite than regular buckers. Could go that route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Some additional questions on this subject: Norton, how/why does your setup eliminate hum? Does the type of amp matter? (SS vs hybrid vs all-tube) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poverty Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 I've found this....... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-Hum-Debugger-Hum-Eliminator-Pedal?sku=150136 and this..... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ebtech-Hum-X-Hum-Exterminator?sku=150452 i'm not sure if the humx meets my needs but i'd hate to spend $120 on a pedal when all i have to is spend $70 on a new pair of gfs classic 59's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Double check your grounding if you still get hum with both on... maybe add shielding to the pickup cavities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 i'm not sure if the humx meets my needs but i'd hate to spend $120 on a pedal when all i have to is spend $70 on a new pair of gfs classic 59's. timmyinpajamas has a slightly used set of vintage 59s for sale PM him and see what you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poverty Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 Well. I would have got new set of pup's if i didn't just buy a new MI Audio Blues pro overdrive. So..... I'm a sucker for stomp boxes. My wife loves it! WE'll play it by ear. Maybe next pay i'll just get a new set of pup's and sell the mean 90's. but, i do love the sound they give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Well. I would have got new set of pup's if i didn't just buy a new MI Audio Blues pro overdrive.So..... I'm a sucker for stomp boxes. My wife loves it! WE'll play it by ear. Maybe next pay i'll just get a new set of pup's and sell the mean 90's. but' date=' i do love the sound they give.[/quote'] I'll buy 'em if/when ya sell 'em. Now I gotta find a les paul and SG or a flying V and X-plorer... I wanna do my dot's pup combo on some solidbodies, and with another forumite selling '59s, I can't go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flick Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 This has been talked about already but i can't find the thread.Put gfs mean 90's neck and bridge in my Dot' date=' sound great but they hum. Playing through a EVJ and a Fuzz Face makes it worse. I fiddled around with the ground a bit but still nothing to get rid of the .."aaaannnggg!!!" comming fomr the amp when not playing. Any solutions other then replacing them with classic '59's? thanx in advance. POV.[/quote'] I saw Ringo Friday night, Billy Squier was his lead guitarist. He used a Rick 330 and a Strat for most of Ringo's songs, but for his own songs he used an LP Jr. with a single P-90. He played great. The Junior sounded fantastic. It hummed liked an SOB. No one cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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