pohatu771 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 A few weeks ago, I saw a band on Letterman, with a guitarist playing what appeared to be an ES-335 with a trapeze tailpiece. It could have also been an ES-330 with humbuckers. I saw it again tonight on Saturday Night Live (different band, similar guitar). Both were a brown colour (just like Notes' ES-330). I've looked on Wikipedia at all of the ES models, and none of them matched. There were no holes on the body, so they didn't remove the stopbar. Does anyone (Uncle Al...) know of a hollow or semi-hollow, made by Gibson, in the late sixties (I'm guessing based on colour and Notes' '69), with a trapeze tailpiece and humbuckers? It had a crown inlay on the headstock, nothing fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I've seen 60s 335s with a trapeze. I think someone here has one too? When I played BeatleFest in 92 one of the guitar players in another band had a natural finish one with the trapeze. I thought it was a Casino at first until I saw the HBs. I talked to him but forget what year, 60 something. I don't think it had dots either. Same period I had my red 68 335 with bigsby so we compared a bit. That was when Casinos were harder to find/more expensive than old 60s Gibson 335s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ES-335TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ES-335TD? That would be what I saw, but he had the pickgaurd removed. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 A few weeks ago' date=' I saw a band on Letterman, with a guitarist playing what appeared to be an ES-335 with a trapeze tailpiece. It could have also been an ES-330 with humbuckers. I saw it again tonight on Saturday Night Live (different band, similar guitar). Both were a brown colour (just like Notes' ES-330). I've looked on Wikipedia at all of the ES models, and none of them matched. There were no holes on the body, so they didn't remove the stopbar. Does anyone (Uncle Al...) know of a hollow or semi-hollow, made by Gibson, in the late sixties (I'm guessing based on colour and Notes' '69), with a trapeze tailpiece and humbuckers? It had a crown inlay on the headstock, nothing fancy.[/quote'] My 60's ES 335 had one. Now this guy has it [sniff!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tapeze tailpiece was introduced in 1965. Although some models of that year still had the "stop bar" tailpiece. From 1965 until 1981, when the 335 was discontinued. Brought out later, as a "Dot" reissue. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Has anyone here put a tailpiece on a les paul or maybe on of the 'kats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roswell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Has anyone here put a tailpiece on a les paul or maybe on of the 'kats?I have a cousin who has terrible problems keeping his guitar the same who's gone through both a Bigsby and a trapeze tailpiece (and continues to do so regularly) on an LP Studio. I'll see if I can coax him into some pictures or at least feedback on what he thinks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 I assumed that the stop-bar was standard on the ES-335... forever. Apparently they aren't (or weren't) as uncommon as I thought. These would still be semi-hollow, correct? Has anyone here put a tailpiece on a les paul or maybe on of the 'kats? When Gibson introduced the Les Paul in 1952 (I think it was '52...), they all had a trapeze. I'm curious to see what it does to the sound, in a head-to-head comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 My 68 had the block inlays also. My buddy who is the studio guy has known guitars longer than me told me what I had. I thought then all 335 were supposed to have dots and traded it off for some amp.....dumb ***! He still bothers me to this day about that guitar. He's the one who pointed out the Jorma to me at guitar show in the Chicago area and played it a bit at the show and told me it was real close to my old 335 in weight, tone etc. In college he used to play my 335 alot as I had my Ric 350 and it was the only guitar in my collection he told me never to sell off. I passed at the show, but the dealer was Axe In Hand in Dekalb IL, and I tracked it down later that same week and got it. It feels the same and is the best of the standard line Epiphone I have ever owned. Never changed a thing. Just wish Jorma had requested the block inlays instead of the dots, but I'm happy anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrds1965 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I assumed that the stop-bar was standard on the ES-335... forever. Apparently they aren't (or weren't) as uncommon as I thought. These would still be semi-hollow' date=' correct?[/quote'] Yes they were the same semi hollow but for some reason Gibson went to the trapeze on them. I didn't know they went from 65 to 81 and only saw that one meeting the guy in another Beatles band playing the natural one. To be honest I was still in my Ric phase and didn't pay much attention to Gibson's or I would never have gotten rid of the one I had with the Bigsby. I'm sure had I looked in the 80s and early 90s they were all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Also, about mid 1962, the block inlays started, and the Horns became more pointed, and less rounded ("mickey mouse" ears) type. There were still some made, with the rounder horns, even into '63, but eventually they were the more pointed variety, as "standard!" Shorter pickguards, too. I think that was the year they started to put the retaining wire, on the ABR bridges, along with white nylon saddles. Twin ringed "Tulip" tuners, also. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansmitchell Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I assumed that the stop-bar was standard on the ES-335... forever. Apparently they aren't (or weren't) as uncommon as I thought. These would still be semi-hollow' date=' correct? When Gibson introduced the Les Paul in 1952 (I think it was '52...), they all had a trapeze. I'm curious to see what it does to the sound, in a head-to-head comparison.[/quote'] Yeah. SG with a trapeze tailpiece, would be kinda funny... The maestro long trems have a tailpiece under 'em, here's a firebird with cover removed: And a trapeze on a V... LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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