RotcanX Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Correct. We've been using them in our store for years now and we have never had a problem with any of our nitro-finished guitars. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvdv Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I have three SGs' date=' two Gibsons and a G400, they are the most comfortable guitar ever. I love the access you get to the upper frets, I love the thin body and the cool horns, I love everything about them! I going to save up and buy another 61 RI as the last one I had was probably the best guitar I have ever played. Once you get one its a slippery slope![/quote'] What similarities/differences are there tonally between the three guitars? I'm particularly interested in knowing whether the two Gibsons are more similar to each other (i.e. if there is a consistency in manufacturing, and choice of woods) than they are to the Epiphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBlues Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Wow the inlays and finish is outstanding on that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS90 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 What similarities/differences are there tonally between the three guitars? I'm particularly interested in knowing whether the two Gibsons are more similar to each other (i.e. if there is a consistency in manufacturing' date=' and choice of woods) than they are to the Epiphone.[/quote'] They are 3 totally different guitars, the necks of the G400 and the 74 feel similar because they dont have binding, the 62 RI Showcase has EMGs and a bound neck so it cant be compared to the sound or the feel of the others. The Gibsons play a million times better than the Epi though. The Showcase was made in 1988 but it plays and feels the same as brand new 61 and 62 RIs. The only thing that lets Epiphones down are the pickups and the really thick polly finishes, if you change the pups you are 80% there, but to me that extra 20% is worth the extra money. TBH you dont even have to spend a lot, the going rate for an Epi LP in the UK is £289 I got my used Gibson LP Studio from the US for £300 including shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 IMO the Philippine tonewoods used on the G-400s just don't resonate they way mahogany does. And the polyester encapsulated finish isn't helping. The neck on a Gibson also has a more comfortable contour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprice Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I agree with the comment about the tone of the G400 compared to the Epi Japan models. As well as my 2 Jap models I have a G400 with the Maestro trem (bit of an SG nut really!) Its nice enough...it actually has Seth Lover pu's which its previous owner fitted...(these may well end up in my new white guitar)...but the sustain is nowhere near as good. The G400's aren't in the same league really...but they are great value nonetheless....Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutoftheBlues Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Here are Kyoko's ebay offerings. Click here and order the '61 now! Very Nice. I noticed that he raised the price on this one by about 80+ $'s when it was initially mentioned on a previous thread. Still cheaper that a gibson but the price gap is getting narrower betweem this particular model and a gibson sg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Very Nice. I noticed that he raised the price on this one by about 80+ $'s when it was initially mentioned on a previous thread. Still cheaper that a gibson but the price gap is getting narrower betweem this particular model and a gibson sg. Probably, to cover the increase in his shipping costs? It's still a "Steal!" And the '61 Gibby, is almost 3 times the price. The Standard SG is closer, but this one is the '61 version, deeper scarfs, wider bevels, smaller pickguard with pickup rings, wider headstock, etc. But, it doesn't say "Gibson" on the headstock, so...that may or may not be a consideration to you? I sure love my Epi Japan version! If I ever did get the Gibson, it would be a VOS with the Maestro...and probably never leave the house! LOL!! The Epi I can play anywhere and not worry (so much, anyway) about it. Anyway... just some thoughts. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Very Nice. I noticed that he raised the price on this one by about 80+ $'s when it was initially mentioned on a previous thread. Still cheaper that a gibson but the price gap is getting narrower betweem this particular model and a gibson sg. Mine was cheaper, but I had to pay a giant shipping charge. He later raised the price and offered free shipping. I think that might have been to make the shipping to S. America seem less (than $250). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Just noticed Kyokyo has a black '61 SG for the same price I paid, and free shipping! So for you "black guitar lovers," that might be just the ticket?! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Just noticed Kyokyo has a black '61 SG for the same price I paid' date=' and free shipping!So for you "black guitar lovers," that might be just the ticket?! CB[/quote'] Black guitar lovers? Like maybe MSUSPARTANSFAN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjudge3 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Now why can't Epiphone release this guitar in the U.S.? Oh I know, because then everyone would quit buying the Gibson Faded SG! This is what I had in mind for the "Epiphone needs to redo the G-400" thread a few weeks back. This is my idea of a G-400! (Even though its not supposed to be). Now where can I buy one for a decent price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant7629 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Mine was cheaper' date=' but I had to pay a giant shipping charge. He later raised the price and offered free shipping. I think that might have been to make the shipping to S. America seem less (than $250).[/quote'] Why is shipping to South America so expensive? I got free shipping on mine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferySmith Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why is shipping to South America so expensive? I got free shipping on mine.. To bribe all of the mail handlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprice Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Done a comparison with my new(2007) Jap Epi '61SG and my 2002 Elite model.. Difficult in a way cause my Elite is well played in and working exactly as it should. Out of the box the new guitar plays very well...so said, I don't like the strings which feel like cheapo 11's or something..and the action is set way too high. So I've fiitted a set of SuperSlinky 9's...spent about 30 mins on the action and intonation and I can tell you that this guitar is just wonderful and very much on-a-par with my Elitist and probably as good as any Gibbo unless you want to pay thousands. I may possiby change the pu's at some point though the stock Japan units are fine. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Done a comparison with my new(2007) Jap Epi '61SG and my 2002 Elite model.. Difficult in a way cause my Elite is well played in and working exactly as it should. Out of the box the new guitar plays very well...so said' date=' I don't like the strings which feel like cheapo 11's or something..and the action is set way too high. So I've fiitted a set of SuperSlinky 9's...spent about 30 mins on the action and intonation and I can tell you that this guitar is just wonderful and very much on-a-par with my Elitist and probably as good as any Gibbo unless you want to pay thousands. I may possiby change the pu's at some point though the stock Japan units are fine. Chris [/quote'] Chris, how does the weight of your Japanese Epi compare to your Gibson? Same, lighter, heavier? Just curious...mine feels so light, I'm wondering if it's just that I've forgotten how light SG's are, in comparison to most other guitars? LOL! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprice Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Chris' date=' how does the weight of your Japanese Epi compare to your Gibson? Same, lighter, heavier? Just curious...mine feels so light, I'm wondering if it's just that I've forgotten how light SG's are, in comparison to most other guitars? LOL! CB[/quote'] Sorry havn't replied sooner...Just to clarify...I have a 2002 Epi Elite '61SG and a 2007 Japan market Epi '61SG. Many years ago I owned a '69 Gibson SG special...too long ago to do a real comparison, though I strongly suspect that both my Jap guitars are way better. Having now 'broken in' my new 2007 Epi...I would say that the Elite has the edge...the setup is better and of course it has USA pu's...the frets in particular are wonderful. So said, the 2007 model has the lacquer finish which I love and it has the original Gibson headstock shape. I'm gonna treat that one to a pro set-up, fret dress etc...a pair of Seymour Duncan Seth Lovers and top-dog wiring and pots... the end result should piss all over any $2k Gibson historic/vintage whatever. I'll report back later when its done. Oh and the weight...yeah - both are very light and like all Gibbo's, a bit neck heavy...as they were. The white 2007 model is slightly lighter than the Elite.....Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostindesert Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Nice geetar. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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