bobbyd0813 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Check out this link below, i just bought this guitar off ebay and now im having worries that its not an authetic epiphone, please respond asap! Notice the chrome hardware instead of the chrome, the gibson truss rod cover, and the tuners. Is any of this stuff authentic. I know the newest one has gold hardware, grover tuners, and a truss rod cover that says les paul custom. Were the older versions of this guitar different. Some one please inform me on the authenticity of this guitar. Epiphone Les Paul Custom Plus Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Looks OK to me. It's an older one, definitely pre-2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd0813 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 How can you tell that its pre 2002? And does it not concern you that the hardware is not gold like the new ones? Was the hardware not gold in the pre 2002 models and also the tuners. Were grover tuners only used on post 2002 models. Thank you so much for your response. Just hearing you say that it looks good to you took alot off my chest. Keep ensuring me its authentic. Thank you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd0813 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 I dont know if you noticed billy bob, but you didnt type anything. lol. Please, anyone out there, im looking for some more insight on this guitars authenticity. Look are first post for the info. Thank you. -Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I'm not sure about the silver hardware for that particular model, though some Customs have used it before, but yes prior to Gibson opening their own factory in China in 2002 the tuners and truss rod cover were as shown on your guitar. All Epiphones based on Gibson designs used that cover up until then. When Gibson started making them at the new factory, they changed some of the details, model specific truss rod covers, Grovers across the board, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSDx Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 How can you tell that its pre 2002? And does it not concern you that the hardware is not gold like the new ones? Was the hardware not gold in the pre 2002 models and also the tuners. Were grover tuners only used on post 2002 models. Thank you so much for your response. Just hearing you say that it looks good to you took alot off my chest. Keep ensuring me its authentic. Thank you so much. My guess is that around '02 is when Epiphone stopped using trussrod covers with the Gibson name on them .... just a guess, as my '99 Epi has Gibson trc, my '07 Epi has Epi trc *eidit* EpiEric beat me to it, with a better explanation ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I'm not sure about the silver hardware for that particular model, though some Customs have used it before, but yes prior to Gibson opening their own factory in China in 2002 the tuners and truss rod cover were as shown on your guitar. All Epiphones based on Gibson designs used that cover up until then. When Gibson started making them at the new factory, they changed some of the details, model specific truss rod covers, Grovers across the board, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpiEric Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sorry about the double post. It said I couldn't post for 20 seconds, then the first post showed up anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I was gold (hardware), just worn off. Pretty typical... CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd0813 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 I would liket to agree with you, but its says chrome hardware in the description and also i dont think every little bit of gold would be warn off but i wish you were right lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I would liket to agree with you' date=' but its says chrome hardware in the description and also i dont think every little bit of gold would be warn off but i wish you were right lol.[/quote'] Well, unless you bought it, it's moot now, 'cause it auction's over. But, if you look on the photo, there's a bit of gold left on the bridge, and tailpiece, in the groves and edges....around the turning keys, too. That's pretty typical, for the older Epi's, especially. The "gold" (not real gold) plating was quite thin, and wore off, very quickly. Now, they may have changed the pickup covers, or some such, but I (feel) it's just that the gold has worn away. But...only he and the new buyer will know, for sure, I guess? LOL! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd0813 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Alright, thank you for bringing that to my attention ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron G Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Did anybody notice that the sticker says "LP-COUSTOM"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3bklyndream Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 yeah i just noticed the Coustom sticker lol well if its fake the person can try to find the serial number from the top of the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotcanX Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 How can you tell that its pre 2002? And does it not concern you that the hardware is not gold like the new ones? Was the hardware not gold in the pre 2002 models and also the tuners. Were grover tuners only used on post 2002 models. Thank you so much for your response. Just hearing you say that it looks good to you took alot off my chest. Keep ensuring me its authentic. Thank you so much. You're answering your own question. The non-Grover tuners make it pre-2002. The gold is just worn off, dude. It's not real gold anyway, just yellow-tinted plating. The TRCs didn't change until 2004 FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin134 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 only thing odd I noticed as mentioned by others was the "LP-Coustom" sticker which I have never seen on any guitar, perhaps that was a guitar shop sticker and not one from the factory... As some others say, really is best to try and buy from reputable dealers whether online or in person.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfrets Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I don't mean to offend anyone, but Jesus H Christ! People who buy $h!t and then start asking questions never cease to amaze me. If you're afraid of getting burned, then do your homework BEFORE you commit to buy something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayGLongBeach Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I don't mean to offend anyone' date=' but Jesus H Christ! People who buy $h!t and [b']then[/b] start asking questions never cease to amaze me. If you're afraid of getting burned, then do your homework BEFORE you commit to buy something... This behaviour, however, is typical of GAS syndrome=p~ ... that lets him off the hook.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I don't mean to offend anyone' date=' but Jesus H Christ! People who buy $h!t and [b']then[/b] start asking questions never cease to amaze me. If you're afraid of getting burned, then do your homework BEFORE you commit to buy something... Hmm...We have to get a degree in determining fake Epiphones first? It's not that easy for the novice buyer anymore. The guitar looks very legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken361 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 You can buys these for 300 or so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd0813 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 Does any in here have a pre 2002 eiphone les paul custom plus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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