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You have to laugh at this....

 

I still have GAS. More GAS for upgarding my Epiphones even further.

 

Somebody shoot me!

 

And how am I placating GAS this month? In the vain hopes of winning one of a dozen online contests entered!

 

(It's an old jedi mind trick!)

 

Seriously....What's your take on modding the Black LP custom even further and then taking the mods that I have on that and dumping them in turn into the LP standard flame top in my avatar?

 

Here's the thoughts:

 

1. On the LP Custom, a Tone Pros bridge, Tony Iommi pickups or Seymour Duncan Blackouts (actives), and possibly Schaller locking tuners with yet another new tarq nut ordered from God knows where...and then dumping the Burstbucker Alcino V's into the LP standard?

 

Granted, part of me still yearns for the Sheraton II in addition to THIS...and on a purely cosmetic level, acquiring a 5-ply black pickguard for my Gibson LP studio to give it a bit more cowbell.

 

What in the hell is wrong with me? Can't I just be happy with what I have?

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Ah' date=' Sentry...do what makes YOU happy! Can't worry about justifying "GAS!" It's like "Love,"

difficult to explain, but enjoyable (most of the time). Go for it!

 

CB[/quote']

 

I hear ya. I still want that "metal" guitar, you know? I can cut all the classic tones I want out of my Gibson, and the LP standard keeps up...kind of.

 

The only thing that sort of makes me a little leery about this is the realization that Alcino V's sort of have a very bright, cutting sound....they're great for solid mahogany guitars, but I'm not sure they'll sound as good in my Epiphone LP standard...it's got a much brighter tone ALREADY than the Custom did with the same pickups....

 

Ahhh...hell with it! I think I just need to break down and GAS for some more axes!!! (But I'll still get the pickguard for the Studio!!! YES!!)

 

](*,)

 

PS: It also makes me wonder if long term, maybe I should start socking away 3 grand for another Gibson....granted, not as many guitars...but is it better to drink Budweiser by the case or have 1 really good bottle of fine wine?

 

Sigh...

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What's to worry about? As we've all discovered in this recent economic situation, savings and investments don't really work. So, why not use it for its intended purpose? (BTW, its not buying a new guitar. What you want to do is trade some of that wrinkled green paper for a beautiful instrument.)

 

Buying a new guitar, well, wifey might object.

 

Trading something you already had for something else? How can she say no? Its something you already have.

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Ah' date=' Sentry...do what makes YOU happy! Can't worry about justifying "GAS!" It's like "Love,"

difficult to explain, but enjoyable (most of the time). Go for it!

 

CB[/quote']

 

Yeah.... and love is also blind CB. I can't tell you how many guitars I've hot rodded to the point that only a fool like me would......well maybe we got another fool in the making! LOL!

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Yeah.... and love is also blind CB. I can't tell you how many guitars I've hot rodded to the point that only a fool like me would......well maybe we got another fool in the making! LOL!

 

Well, I guess with "Love," you'd best be blind, deaf and dumb, too! LOL!

It's (for sure) made fools of us all, at one time or another.

 

As to hot rodding guitars...unless it's something in the alteration of the structure,

one can always "go back," to original specs. So...What the Hey?!

 

CB

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Well' date=' I guess with "Love," you'd best be blind, deaf and dumb, too! LOL!

It's (for sure) made fools of us all, at one time or another.

 

As to hot rodding guitars...unless it's something in the alteration of the structure,

one can always "go back," to original specs. So...What the Hey?!

 

CB[/quote']

 

Yup that's very true and one of the things thats very attractive about modding alot of these Epi's......There are so many parts out there now to do it right....why not experiment a little? Back in my youth we were hackin' up tele's and melody makers all over the place with drills and routers because they were cheap! :-k :- #-o

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I hear ya. I still want that "metal" guitar' date=' you know? I can cut all the classic tones I want out of my Gibson, and the LP standard keeps up...kind of.

 

The only thing that sort of makes me a little leery about this is the realization that Alcino V's sort of have a very bright, cutting sound....they're great for solid mahogany guitars, but I'm not sure they'll sound as good in my Epiphone LP standard...it's got a much brighter tone ALREADY than the Custom did with the same pickups....

 

Ahhh...hell with it! I think I just need to break down and GAS for some more axes!!! (But I'll still get the pickguard for the Studio!!! YES!!)

 

:-k

 

PS: It also makes me wonder if long term, maybe I should start socking away 3 grand for another Gibson....granted, not as many guitars...but is it better to drink Budweiser by the case or have 1 really good bottle of fine wine?

 

Sigh...[/quote']

 

Still want "that metal guitar"??????? may I suggest one of the G400 series as a starting platform?

The really thin body allows much more vibration(resonance) and the neck taper is very very nice for soloing.

Any mods you can do to a LP, you can do to a G.

I just LOVE "that sound".

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Still want "that metal guitar"??????? may I suggest one of the G400 series as a starting platform?

The really thin body allows much more vibration(resonance) and the neck taper is very very nice for soloing.

Any mods you can do to a LP' date=' you can do to a G.

I just LOVE "that sound".[/quote']

 

Oh yeah....A fool I am!!!

 

And gosh, if I get this local job (I travel about 90% of the time right now) I'll have....ALL MY SPARE TIME TO MOD MY GUITARS!! MWAHAHAAHAH!!!

 

Yeah, an SG would be a great platform. I can still get that Iommi SG for 550 bucks. Or, a real Gibson SG that's on sale at MF as a scratch and dent...

 

(Ah crap, someone got the last one!! Arrggghh!!!!)

 

Ah well...yeah, hold out for the lottery!!! But there IS one advantage to the perpetual mod process....I don't have 12 guitars lying around the house. (And, if I somehow resist the temptation of the SG or G-400....I could always put some Burstbukers in the Les Paul and transfer the 490/498's to the Epi LP Standard...but sigh...that brings me no closer to getting that "metal guitar")

 

Hey Epiphone!! I GOTTA WIN THAT CONTEST!! PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE!!!

 

#-o

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Sentry, people have played metal, and all it's variants, on guitars just like yours forever...why change guitars for metal? I have a guitar with way weeker pickups then you and most of what I play is blues and metal. I just go through a different amp or effect like a pedal to get different sounds...you don't need hot pickups to get heavy sounds. Then again, mod like crazy! their your guitars, so why not have exactly what you want?

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Sentry' date=' people have played metal, and all it's variants, on guitars just like yours forever...why change guitars for metal? I have a guitar with way weeker pickups then you and most of what I play is blues and metal. I just go through a different amp or effect like a pedal to get different sounds...you don't need hot pickups to get heavy sounds. Then again, mod like crazy! their your guitars, so why not have exactly what you want?[/quote']

 

Hehehe. Actually, to a degree I like the weaker pickups on the Epi LP standard. They sound nice clean, and with slight crunch. The LP custom sounds great with crunch, and has a bright, cutting clean tone for a Les Paul. And...the Gibson is the Gibson. (I hate to brag, but I am of the belief it's a "Wednesday model.")

 

What am I looking for, though? Oh, it's that grail thing. It's the premise of those pickups in a guitar where no matter how much distortion I put and no matter how loud I crank up the amp...the pickups will handle it, ie, the guitar won't squeal like a little girl as soon as I take my hand off the strings.

 

So, it's a question of finding actual "metal" pickups. Most of the humbuckers out there sound great, but once you get to a certain volume with a certain amount of distortion, well....as soon as you move your hand off the strings...

 

[-(

 

Thus, I'm thinking......Iommis. On a guitar. I don't know what it is...I'm getting pretty weird about it. Let me put it this way....I've got a credit card application. If I get it, and I don't win the lottery (or one of those stupid contests) I probably WILL order the Iommi G-400. No, I'm not going to use it for those awesome clean tones, or the ever so slight Nashville tones that sound great on a humbucking guitar like a Les Paul.

 

(And believe it or not, 80% of the time....yeah, that's where I like to play it.)

 

Nope. At its base I'm looking for a set of pickups that don't have to sound great clean, have a nice, creamy sound with some old vintage crunch, and when it's that insane/metal distortion....they'll handle it.

 

(And yeah, I'm still on this kick.)

 

But, after doing some research, I'm also hearing a lot about the Seymour Duncan Blackouts. Most people who own swear that they would trade up a dozen sets of EMG's for these bad boys!!!

 

But can these compete with the best pickups Gibson makes? The Birch specials? (especially with 1 meg pots?) I'm not so sure....

 

Ah....decisions, decisions!!!!

 

EDIT: And yeah, if you look at my earlier posts...it's obvious the gas is on the brain. Even though I've gotten older, I still have some punk/metal guys I jam with now and again...and yeah, it would be funny to show up with an Epiphone and blow someone's head off. #-o

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Oh yeah....A fool I am!!!

 

And gosh' date=' if I get this local job (I travel about 90% of the time right now) I'll have....ALL MY SPARE TIME TO MOD MY GUITARS!! MWAHAHAAHAH!!!

 

Yeah, an SG would be a great platform. I can still get that Iommi SG for 550 bucks. Or, a real Gibson SG that's on sale at MF as a scratch and dent...

 

(Ah crap, someone got the last one!! Arrggghh!!!!)

 

Ah well...yeah, hold out for the lottery!!! But there IS one advantage to the perpetual mod process....I don't have 12 guitars lying around the house. (And, if I somehow resist the temptation of the SG or G-400....I could always put some Burstbukers in the Les Paul and transfer the 490/498's to the Epi LP Standard...but sigh...that brings me no closer to getting that "metal guitar")

 

Hey Epiphone!! I GOTTA WIN THAT CONTEST!! PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE!!!

 

:- [/quote']

 

Given you too are LH, it's unfortunate that our choices are limited.

 

MF has a LH scratch/dent gibson LP...but only in alpine white, and it's still 2500.

 

If you haven't played an Iommi, note it's 24 fret, not 22.

When I switch between the two, until my hand adjusts, I'm off a fret...annoying, to say the least.

 

IMHO, the Iommi sounds better; the LP is easier to play.

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Given you too are LH' date=' it's unfortunate that our choices are limited.

 

MF has a LH scratch/dent gibson LP...but only in alpine white, and it's still 2500.

 

If you haven't played an Iommi, note it's 24 fret, not 22.

When I switch between the two, until my hand adjusts, I'm off a fret...annoying, to say the least.

 

IMHO, the Iommi sounds better; the LP is easier to play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ah, the Iommi.....

 

But, things got even stupider today. Especially for me as a leftie. (Carverman might appreciate this.)

 

A guitar repair shop opened up near my house, which means I don't have to drive for over an hour to get those major repairs and upgrades I can't handle myself like fret leveling and what not.

 

And wouldn't you know it...the guy's also a proxy for about half a dozen luthiers in the area and he has a few examples of their work. Some of it is mindblowing.

 

Then we get to talking..."Oh, gosh, well, you know, he's been talking about building an archtop. He wants to build one....left handed? OH YEAH, he'd be all over that!"

 

:-k

 

So now we're talking about GAS beyond the realm, beyond what can be satiated with merely purchasing another production model. The underpinning logic of it all is this: As a leftie, it's a given my options are limited. It's also a given that if I want to upgrade to something that is beyond quality of my Gibson Les Paul, ordering online is a foregone conclusion.

 

Question: Would you want to take a chance on a 3000 dollar guitar+ that was sent through the mail, sight unseen, never played?

 

#-o

 

To be honest, I don't...no, I CAN'T go through with this! I'll have to avoid eating for a month! But imagine, if you will!

 

A custom made archtop, for a leftie, designed by a leftie, and built to my specs. Good gawd, I've been thinking about this all night!

 

Imagine...

 

Something based off of a Casino or Dot thinline archtop body (it would have to be unique, but it could be a hybrid between the 2).

 

A 3-piece body with mahogany on the backs and sides (high grade, mind you) with a.....hmm....oh, yes, a hawaiin koa top, baby, mixed in to match with a black sunburst around the edges and covering the mahogany! Kick in a maple (black) 22 fret neck profiled against a 1959 Gibson Les Paul (the rounded one), a slightly larger than average headstock for better tone and sustain, a gorgeous ebony fingerboard with diamond inlays and jumbo frets, a trapeze bridge, maple binding (I'd probably have to beg for plastic), a toggle and volume setup like a Les Paul, Schaller locking tuners, the custom cut bone nut, and last but certainly not least...a P-90 soapbar (chrome covered) for the neck position and yes, a TONY IOMMI for the bridge! Take that feedback and do something with it! (Or, if I could score one, oh yes, a left handed BIGSBY tailpiece!)

 

All handmade with the highest quality materials, comparable, if not vastly superior to manufactured custom models that are now bought online....

 

THAT would probably be the ultimate surrender to GAS...I think for now I just need to STOP dreaming about these sorts of things...and concentrate on just getting my perpetual upgrades.

 

=P~

 

SECOND EDIT: Yeah, imagine a sunburst fading into a wood tone that looked like this....with nice, shiny chrome hardware, off white rings and pickguard (to match the binding...)

 

koa%20guitar.jpg

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Question: Would you want to take a chance on a 3000 dollar guitar+ that was sent through the mail' date=' sight unseen, never played?

 

 

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Probably not.

The Iommi was my 1st.

 

At my level of playing ability, justifying the (used) LP as a 2nd guitar was tough enough - I did it because it was 1/3 the cost of a new one.

 

No way I can justify a 2.5k LP....but to gas for it, yea, I can understand that.

 

AJ

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Probably not.

The Iommi was my 1st.

 

At my level of playing ability' date=' justifying the (used) LP as a 2nd guitar was tough enough - I did it because it was 1/3 the cost of a new one.

 

No way I can justify a 2.5k LP....but to gas for it, yea, I can understand that.

 

AJ

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I'm sort of in the same boat....I'm also thinking about Iommis for my maple top plus at this point. I was thinking about dumping them into the custom, but that guitar already has a nice set of pups. (and, I don't have to transition between guitars for playability, and I don't have yet another guitar taking up space in my house...yeah, they're beauties, but sheesh!)

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