Trojon Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Wow just got the new catalog from GC and there is a new Gibson Les Paul with an original floyd rose. I believe they're calling it the Les Paul Axcess and its from the custom shop. They claim it has a slightly thinner rear-contoured body making it the most comfortable Les Paul ever and it runs a little bit under US $3800.00. Now the million dollar question, will Epi find a way to get a version to the Epi faithful. Time will tell. http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/products/lespauls/axcess/AxcessIcedTea.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalhed717 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 ONLY $3800, WOW I'M BUYIN' TWO!!! no not really but i would love epi to make a similar model... the les paul ultra III. hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sentry Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Count me out on that one. One of the main attraction to the LP's and the "Gibson" lines (or copies) was the TOM. I used to have a Floyd...hated it. Every time my hand would rest on the floating bridge... (Even my strats have the bridges jacked down all the way to the body.) I also serviced one a few months back. Ugh....give me the simple thing that works every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 2005 Neil Schon Signature http://www.gibsoncustom.com/flash/products/signature/schon/NealSchon.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Well I know this will cause some debate,but IMHO the only trem worth a damn on a les paul(or any gibson for that matter) is a Kahler.....the routing needed to go up on a floyd is pretty extensive on a paul and it just isn't a clean retrofit IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojon Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 Interesting point layboomo but I would have to disagree with you on it. The Kahler trem is more expensive, goes out of tune when a note is bent, is kind of an eyesoar and doesn't have the reputation the floyd has. There is a guy that put together an interesting, but long, video series on youtube pitting the floyd rose vs. the Kahler trem. The only plus of the Kahler trem is less routing but the fact that it goes out of tune when you bend a note is enough for anyone to pick the floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonk Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah, I want one (at least one)...NOW. Saw Rush a few months ago and Alex had several of them. Well, they were Les Pauls with tremolos. Could not tell if they were FR's or not though, but I am now guessing they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Most of the (recessed-)Floyd-LPs you see are custom made LPs. You can't just slap a Floyd on a LP without straightening the neck angle of the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Most of the (recessed-)Floyd-LPs you see are custom made LPs. You can't just slap a Floyd on a LP without straightening the neck angle of the neck. Exactly! I'm not a dive bomber by nature,but I've owned and setup many a whammy equiped guitar and I currently have a warmouth strat with a Kahler on it with a locking nut and it is by far the most stable trem equipped guitar I've ever seen. There are weaknesses and strengths to both systems IMHO,but if they are both set up correctly they are quite stable...to me a Kahler just feels really solid compared to a floyd....but again I'm not a heavy whammy user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Exactly! I'm not a dive bomber by nature' date='but I've owned and setup many a whammy equiped guitar and I currently have a warmouth strat with a Kahler on it with a locking nut and it is by far the most stable trem equipped guitar I've ever seen. There are weaknesses and strengths to both systems IMHO,but if they are both set up correctly they are quite stable...to me a Kahler just feels really solid compared to a floyd....but again I'm not a heavy whammy user.[/quote'] I have very little hands-on experience with Kahlers. Certainly never owned one, except for a clone. My experiences varied from fantastic to so-so. The problem is Kahler has had many different models(including Floyd-types). So saying a Kahler is better or worse than a Floyd is a bit generalising. I liked the clone, best divebomb experience I had, alltho visually it was more a tremolo with a guitar attached and I went through a new pack of strings about every 2 days...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layboomo Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I have very little hands-on experience with Kahlers. Certainly never owned one' date=' except for a clone. My experiences varied from fantastic to so-so. The problem is Kahler has had many different models(including Floyd-types). So saying a Kahler is better or worse than a Floyd is a bit generalising. I liked the clone, best divebomb experience I had, alltho visually it was more a tremolo with a guitar attached and I went through a new pack of strings about every 2 days...:D [/quote'] Yup very true...the Kahler on my strat is their best model so I may be little biased that way. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other at all...just saying I never had any going out of tune issues with mine at all! Truth be told I prefer hard tail guitars in general...but it's fun to have one or two dive bombers in the fleet! Edit: I just watched this 4 part series and it's pretty interesting stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1eiMZ5nUk . The Kahler sounds better on the smoother style stuff...but it won't do the flutter effects like a tight original Floyd etc...etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan 58 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I have a Kahler on my 84 Jackson Soloist and I agee with Layboomo, great whammy. Stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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