Help with identifying headstock (guitar)

[twiggy]

just a quick question:

which company makes guitars with such headstock?

 

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2563/headstocksh6.jpg

 

looked through thousand pictures and can't find. know it's been posted sometime ago in this forum but have no luck so far...

 

thanks

[Nelson]

just a quick question:

which company makes guitars with such headstock?

 

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2563/headstocksh6.jpg

 

looked through thousand pictures and can't find. know it's been posted sometime ago in this forum but have no luck so far...

 

thanks

 

Hagstrom

[SkEpTiKaL]

 

Yep, Hagstrom.

[JefferySmith]

The new Hagstroms coming out of China these days have gotten good reviews in the UK magazines. I'm not sure they are even available generally in the USA. Apparently Frank Zappa used a Viking back when they were made in Sweden, and now Dweezil Zappa uses a Chinese-built one. They look very pretty from the photos I've seen.

 

[TheX]

I like it

[Nelson]

It's a pity that yet another of our esteemed international brands is reduced to a cheap Chinese parody of its self.

 

Nelson

[Notes_Norton]

I tried one out in a music store but I ended up buying the Casino.

 

The Hagstrom Viking was a very nice guitar. The neck was great, it looked good, it was a bit heaver than the Casino.

 

I ended up getting the Casino, not for any defect in the Hagstrom, but simply because I loved the P90 sound and the light weight of the Casino was a plus.

 

Notes

[JefferySmith]

I tried one out in a music store but I ended up buying the Casino.

 

The Hagstrom Viking was a very nice guitar. The neck was great' date=' it looked good, it was a bit heaver than the Casino.

 

I ended up getting the Casino, not for any defect in the Hagstrom, but simply because I loved the P90 sound and the light weight of the Casino was a plus.

 

Notes[/quote']

 

I found the lightness of the Casino to be....shocking. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but I sure wasn't expecting it from a guitar without a spruce top.

[JefferySmith]

It's a pity that yet another of our esteemed international brands is reduced to a cheap Chinese parody of its self.

 

Nelson

 

I guess you can count the ones that aren't on one hand.

 

Gibson

 

Help me here.

 

Rickenbacker

 

I'm drawing a blank.....

 

Crafters of Tennessee? Give me some help here!

[charlie brown]

Well, of the major manufacturers, only Rickenbacker (that I know of) has NO sub-company that's in the overseas guitar making business.

There are smaller companys, or botique's that are made only here...but I think RIC is the only major corporation, making guitars solely in

the good old USA! Sad!! And, their prices have skyrocketed, too! ;>(

 

CB

[Nelson]

 

I guess you can count the ones that aren't on one hand.

 

Gibson

 

Help me here.

 

Rickenbacker

 

I'm drawing a blank.....

 

Crafters of Tennessee? Give me some help here!

 

Martin-

Taylor-

Fender USA-

Tacoma-

Hamer

PRS-

Larrivee-

G&L-

Godin/Seagull et al

Heritage-

MusicMan-

Santa Cruz-

Benedetto-

Collins

Breedlove-

Gadow-

Campbell American

Parker-

Bourgeois-

Rich And Taylor- (Formerly Crafters Of Tennessee-they changed their name to avoid confusion with cheap Korean-made guitars labeled "Crafters")

Foggy Bottom-

James Olsen-

Tom Anderson-

Merrill-

Grit Laskin-

Goodall-

Huss And Dalton-

Garrison-

Lowden-

McElroy

 

and I can go on...some of the above companies do make cheap Chinese guitars like Guild and some of the others above but there are still a lot of companies making awesome guitars but they're not for you if you're all about the cheap and want to pretend you have something of note...brands like Zematis, D'Angelico, Stromberg, Epiphone...where they take an esteemed name from the past and slap it on some mass-produced crap made by essentially slave labor...and then everyone who buys the crap comes up with all kinds of validation and lauding of that foreign labor force because it helps with their fantasy. There's a lot of great guitars out there made by very reputable, craft-oriented companies that aren't just exploiting some name some corporation bought... but you ain't gonna get 'em for a few hundred bucks so you can then post pictures in some guitar forum and have everyone go "oooohhhh weeee" People here wonder why the counterfeits are so successful but what they don't realize is that buying an Epiphone is just an authorized counterfeit so why doesn't it make sense to just take it to the next level and have the uber-desired Gibson headstock...like it or not it's all coming from the same place.

 

oh...and by the way. I think the Japanese and Korean Epiphones are some of the best guitar values out there but they aren't what I personally consider "Epiphones". They are great guitars for the money but I crack up every time someone posts about their " '56 Gold Top" and they're talking about an Epiphone...

 

Nelson

[JefferySmith]

 

Martin-

Taylor-

Fender USA-

Tacoma-

Hamer

PRS-

Larrivee-

G&L-

Godin/Seagull et al

Heritage-

MusicMan-

Santa Cruz-

Benedetto-

Collins

Breedlove-

Gadow-

Campbell American

Parker-

Bourgeois-

Rich And Taylor- (Formerly Crafters Of Tennessee-they changed their name to avoid confusion with cheap Korean-made guitars labeled "Crafters")

Foggy Bottom-

James Olsen-

Tom Anderson-

Merrill-

Grit Laskin-

Goodall-

Huss And Dalton-

Garrison-

Lowden-

McElroy

 

and I can go on...some of the above companies do make cheap Chinese guitars like Guild and some of the others above but there are still a lot of companies making awesome guitars but they're not for you if you're all about the cheap and want to pretend you have something of note...brands like Zematis' date=' D'Angelico, Stromberg, Epiphone...where they take an esteemed name from the past and slap it on some mass-produced crap made by essentially slave labor...and then everyone who buys the crap comes up with all kinds of validation and lauding of that foreign labor force because it helps with their fantasy. There's a lot of great guitars out there made by very reputable, craft-oriented companies that aren't just exploiting some name some corporation bought... but you ain't gonna get 'em for a few hundred bucks so you can then post pictures in some guitar forum and have everyone go "oooohhhh wieeee" People here wonder why the counterfeits are so successful but what they don't realize is that buying an Epiphone is just an authorized counterfeit so why doesn't it make sense to just take it to the next level and have the uber-desired Gibson headstock...like it or not it's all coming from the same place.

 

Nelson

 

[/quote']

 

Whoh! I was talking about the companies that have NO Asian factories sporting the company's name. And you're gettin' into Bluegrass territory here. I guess I should have narrowed my statement down a bit. I have a Japanese Fender, Japanese Gretsch, Japanese Martin, etc. But I did seriously err in leaving out Heritage.

 

And I don't mind that PRS is making Korean knockoffs of its American models. The Korean guitars are pretty darned good, and not 1/5 as good as the American counterparts.

[Nelson]

 

Whoh! I was talking about the companies that have NO Asian factories sporting the company's name. And you're gettin' into Bluegrass territory here. I guess I should have narrowed my statement down a bit. I have a Japanese Fender' date=' Japanese Gretsch, Japanese Martin, etc. But I did seriously err in leaving out Heritage.

 

And I don't mind that PRS is making Korean knockoffs of its American models. The Korean guitars are pretty darned good, and not 1/5 as good as the American counterparts. [/quote']

 

I don't have a problem with a lot of the Korean-made guitars (The Samick-made Epiphones of the early/mid 90's were great guitars)..in fact, as much as I despise Chinese products I admit I've seen some Morgan Monroe and some Blueridge instruments that are quite nice (which means this thread has hours to live) but I won't buy Chinese products under any circumstances. I own about forty guitars at the present time...none Chinese..one Korean and four Japanese...I don't consider Chinese guitars gas...more like nausea. If Epiphone returned to USA/ Japanese/Korean production I'd be one of their biggest cheerleaders.

 

Nelson

[Prospero]

...If Epiphone returned to USA/ Japanese/Korean production I'd be one of their biggest cheerleaders.

 

Don't fret, my friend. The trend will see Chinese production shift somewhere else soon enough. Probably less than a decade. The cycle will continue, and China will eventually become a consumer nation instead of a producer as lower costs are found elsewhere in the third world (Philippines? India? Somewhere in Africa?) or energy/transport costs across the Pacific will get so exorbitant that production will be cheapest domestically. It is only a matter of time before people around here are thinking back fondly at their Chinese-made guitars while expressing concern about the new Zimbabwean-made ones.

[twiggy]

Thanks for your replays. Forum shows it's power lol. Spend good few hours trying to find this, and was enough to ask here to get my answer in few minutes lol cheers guys.

[charlie brown]

 

Don't fret' date=' my friend. The trend will see Chinese production shift somewhere else soon enough. Probably less than a decade. The cycle will continue, and China will eventually become a consumer nation instead of a producer as lower costs are found elsewhere in the third world (Philippines? India? Somewhere in Africa?) or energy/transport costs across the Pacific will get so exorbitant that production will be cheapest domestically. It is only a matter of time before people around here are thinking back fondly at their Chinese-made guitars while expressing concern about the new Zimbabwean-made ones.[/quote']

 

"Well, they'll probably be playing Gerchblogs & Zakdungers," right, you know...theyll have new instruments.."

(John Lennon)

 

CB

[twiggy]

Sorry for non-epi topic, but we do play different guitars too

as with huge amount of response I have got, would like to ask for one more favour...

could you lads identify this guitar?

 

seems like viking model to me, but can't find same anywhere... some limited edition? or just hand made binding? I wouldn't mind to copy that over my dot if so as I really luv such stuff. (was dreaming bout fender pink paisley tele for ages lol)

 

cheers

[Notes_Norton]

So they are made in China instead of Korea -- what's the difference? Why the China bashing? I don't understand.

 

We Epiphone consumers recognize the value in a lower priced guitar that is build to professional standards. If we didn't we would pay 5 times the price for a Gibson and get only about 110% of the guitars we now own.

 

The fact is, that in this global market, if you want to bring the price of a product down, and keep the quality up, you must cut production costs somewhere.

 

I am no fan of the Chinese government, but on the other hand, I'm not a nationalist who says that if it isn't done the USA way, it must be wrong (we have our own set of faults, although many of them are different from other countries).

 

If the product is made well, I don't care where it is made. If the Chinese can out-compete us, perhaps we should be looking at our own government to quit spending trillions of dollars on wars, foreign aid, corporate welfare, and other wastes of money. One party wants to tax us outright, the other wants to lower taxes for the rich, run things on credit, and therefore devalue the US currency -- a tax that is not called a tax. We can't compete with other countries when almost half our paychecks go to overt or covert taxes and the rest gets devalued by the party that says they are cutting our taxes.

 

Leilani and I own US, Japan and Korean guitars. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Chinese guitar if it provided me with what I wanted in an instrument.

 

BTW, I had the opportunity to perform in China using a Chinese made saxophone a few years ago. It was every bit as good as the sax I now play (made in Italy).

 

I spent a month in China, found the people to be very nice, the streets and public parks safe both day and night, even the poorer sections of the cities I visited were clean and safe. For all the Chinese government does wrong, they do some other things right. But isn't that the way of the world.

 

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