jonny_2_owls Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 I have recently been looking at buying a Lennon Casino that is marked with an R stamped into the headstock. I'm told it stands for "Refurbished" as it was one of the ones left after the original 1965 were issued. Can anyone else shed any light on this please?
charlie brown Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Use the "search" catagory, and type in "Refurbish"...you should get about 5 pages of various explanations... Cheers, CB
Nelson Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 I have recently been looking at buying a Lennon Casino that is marked with an R stamped into the headstock. I'm told it stands for "Refurbished" as it was one of the ones left after the original 1965 were issued. Can anyone else shed any light on this please? Charlie's a busy man what with all the posts he has to make and all the guitars he has to polish but I think I can take a sec and explain it for you. A "refurb(ish) is the best of the less than first quality instruments you can buy. A "second" usually has a minor finish or cosmetic issue and a "Used"-stamped guitar usually has something more major such as a hardware, electronic or structural issue but a "refurbish" just means that the guitar was previously first quality but somewhere post-production it took a small hit or was sent to someone as new by someone like Musician's Friend and when it was returned it wasn't quite so new so then it's "refurbished" and re-sold as such and often with a full warranty when originally sold by the dealer such as a "second" is (though sometimes they don't come with a factory warranty but are guaranteed by the seller).. Now, the interesting thing is in the case of the Lennon Casino reissues and the JL Hooker Sheraton reissues that were supposedly "limited" to a certain run (in the case of the Lennon Casinos it was 1965...or was that 1965 of each???)...point is there were a lot more than the run that were made so the over-runs were bought by Musician's Friend et al and re-sold without the fancy cases (though a lower end case was given with the MF sold models) and case candy and without the COA papers or numbered interior run labels at a reduced price so they stamp them with an "R" Yoko doesn't get her cut since it's no longer a "Lennon" Casino and they sell it for somewhat less than the original run models. Same thing with the JL Hooker Sheratons. So refurbs can either be guitars that were sent to a buyer and then returned in less than new condition or factory over-runs sold at a discount. Musician's Friend sold quite a few of the Casinos a few years back for as low as $1200. If cosmetically OK the refurbs can be a good bargain. Hope that helps. Nelson
charlie brown Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Hey, I wasn't trying to be "unhelpful"... Just to acquaint him with the search feature. Lots of answers there, if people will just look...you know? CB
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