Munky Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Prompted by a post ive just read about someone buying their fourth Casino - I really dont get why having the same guitar in several different colours/finishes etc is worthwhile? Even if money were no object, there are anough great guitars out there to build up one hell of a collection of different axes, so why buy 5 Epi LP's? Enlighten me - maybe i'll see the error of my ways!
ef_in_fla Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 They're not the same guitars, they're different versions of the same guitar. Different finishes or hardware configurations make for considerably different guitars. But yeah, some of it is kind of silly. (I own 2 black beauties, one with 2 pu and one with 3 .) Maybe ask this guy. http://www.kosakuworld.com/gtr-ibanez.htm
Just Strum Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 I have to agree with you, although I can fully understand the love affair with certain guitars and the four Casino's although excessive, I certainly love the guitar and can see how someone is taken by them. I try to diversify. I won't list em, they are below in my signature. Some cross over with each other, but only slightly. I guess they are like cars, some guys collect Mercedes, some GTO's. I think if you become so taken by them, each in some way is different to the owner.
theDeuce Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 I won't list em' date=' they are below in my signature. [/quote'] I'm too old to read that small!
Just Strum Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 I'm too old to read that small! When we were younger and our eyes were still good' date=' all the books had large font. Today, now that we are older and our eyes aren't that good, all the books have small font - go figure. Guitars: Epi Dot, Epi Wildkat, American Fender Strat Deluxe; Peavey Tele, Orpheum by Tacoma, Epiphone PR350, and a Squier Strat 91 (I don't know what it is, 91 is what I paid for it)
frenchie1281734003 Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Munky, I assume you are referring to me, and all I can say is you are dead right, there is no reason to it at all!!!. What I will say is one is now on it`s way to a friend, another is my main gigging guitar, the third will probably be sold, and the fourth is just my new plaything. Incidently there is a Blues guitarist in Japan named Tad Miura, who has 20+ Casino`s of various types!!. Actually you can see my current guitar list underneath.
charlie brown Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Or, maybe more to the point, why do we (some of us) buy so many guitars, of ANY type?! When really, 4 (or 5) would cover just about anything. LP (or SG), 335 type, Strat, Tele, and in my case Rick 12-string. Obviously, Acoustic guitars aren't covered in that...but, those would get you most, if not all, the "Tones" you'd really ever need. I say this, as much to myself (I have 24 guitars, currently), as to anyone else. LOL! I often think I should "thin the herd!" But, when it comes down to it, there isn't one among them, I don't love! So, until/unless I need the money, I'll hang on to them, as they are (long ago) paid for! It's an interesting, question, though. It may be just that old "The only difference between men and boys, is the price/amount of their toys?!" Or..."He who dies with the most toys, wins?!" ;>) Who knows? CB
Just Strum Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 CB, It's guys like you that soften the comments here at home. I have seven guitars and my wife and coworkers cannot understand why I need seven guitars. When I start getting flak, I point to people like you and they usually shake their heads and walk away. I've been thinking of focusing on one color, that way when I bring a new one home it's more believable when I say "Oh, I've had that one".
charlie brown Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 CB' date=' It's guys like you that soften the comments here at home. I have seven guitars and my wife and coworkers cannot understand why I need seven guitars. When I start getting flak, I point to people like you and they usually shake their heads and walk away. I've been thinking of focusing on one color, that way when I bring a new one home it's more believable when I say "Oh, I've had that one".[/quote'] Hey, if it makes you happy, and isn't a (serious) source of contention, in your family/relationship, why NOT?! Some people by houses, boats, many cars, etc. Guitars and Cameras have always been my "thing!" Besides, nowadays, we ALL need all the "happiness" we can get, IMHO! So, "crazy" as it may be..."So What?"...you know? CB
Out_Of_Control Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 I have five Gibson Les Pauls. Every one will sell for more than I paid. It's like an Investment that is fun and has an almost guarenteed positive financial return. Besides, everyone knows that you have to have a Black one, a Gold one, a Burst, a Plain one, and one with a broken neck.
acewarslave Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 ef in fla is the 3 pu version wired different than the 2 pu .i think the ace eppi are wired different again to,damm in that link u posted theres a ibanez x series blackn red explorer i had one the same,, sadley stolen still got the picture of it back when i had rock star hair..lol
captmidnight Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Prompted by a post ive just read about someone buying their fourth Casino - I really dont get why having the same guitar in several different colours/finishes etc is worthwhile? Even if money were no object' date=' there are anough great guitars out there to build up one hell of a collection of different axes, so why buy 5 Epi LP's? Enlighten me - maybe i'll see the error of my ways![/quote'] The easiest answer to this question..."Cause we like them"
JefferySmith Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Some guy on the Les Paul forum has an entire house full of Orvilles. All I could think of was "lucky SOB". I wonder if the Elitists will be resurrected as Orvilles.
charlie brown Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Some guy on the Les Paul forum has an entire house full of Orvilles. All I could think of was "lucky SOB". I wonder if the Elitists will be resurrected as Orvilles. I think "Orville" is now "Epiphone Japan." Might be wrong about that' date=' but it seems I read that Orville became Epiphone Japan, some years back. ??? CB From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Orville by Gibson guitar headstockOrville by Gibson (Japanese) ????by???? (also known simply as Orville (Japanese) ????) was a brand of guitars that was managed by the Gibson Guitar Corporation for the Japanese market during the late 1980s and most of the 1990s. Contents [hide'] 1 History 2 Models 2.1 Electric Guitars 2.2 Electric Bass Guitars 2.3 Acoustic Guitars 3 Serial Numbers 4 Retail Release History 5 Epiphone Japan 5.1 Epiphone Japan Serial Numbers 6 Sources 7 References 8 External links [edit] History During the 1970s and the 1980s, certain Japanese Guitar companies using brand names such as Ibanez, Tokai, Burny, and Greco were making high quality copies of Fender and Gibson guitars. Some brands were sold only on the Japanese market, but other brands, such as Ibanez were exported from Japan. Fender and Gibson opened Japanese branch divisions to make guitars in Japan using the Fender/Squier or Gibson/Epiphone brand names for the Japanese market. Fender established Fender Japan in 1982 and contracted Yamano Gakki (Japanese) ???? and Kanda Shokai (Japanese) ???? to oversee the production and distribution of Fender Japan guitars in cooperation with Fender. Yamano Gakki (Gakki stands for musical instrument company) are one of Japan's largest musical instrument distributors/retailers and Kanda Shokai are one of Japan's largest musical instrument distributors. Gibson established Epiphone Japan in the early 1970s with the production and distribution being managed by Aria in cooperation with Gibson. The Aria and Gibson Epiphone Japan partnership ended by 1986 and in 1987 Yamano Gakki obtained the Gibson and Epiphone dealership in Japan [1]. Yamano Gakki distributed Gibson and Korean Epiphone guitars and also produced a limited range of Epiphone Japan semi acoustic guitars in cooperation with Gibson. In 1988 Yamano Gakki decided to expand the Epiphone Japan model range to include solid body models as well as semi acoustic models. Gibson and Yamano Gakki decided not to use the Epiphone brand name for the expanded model range and so the Orville name was chosen instead. Orville is the first name of the Gibson corporation's founder Orville Gibson. When the Orville by Gibson series was launched in 1988, Gibson was also selling American made Gibson guitars, Japanese made Epiphone guitars and Korean made Epiphone guitars in Japan. The Orville by Gibson and Orville series were distributed by Yamano Gakki and were priced midway between the American made Gibson guitars and the Korean made Epiphone guitars. There were a number of changes to the Orville by Gibson and Orville model range between their beginning in 1988 and their end in 1998 that are shown in the Retail Release History section. The Orville series were discontinued in 1998 due to Gibson and Yamano Gakki deciding to export an expanded Epiphone model range that included solid body and semi acoustic models. Gibson and Yamano Gakki ended their relationship in late 2006.
MWGuitarman Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Prompted by a post ive just read about someone buying their fourth Casino - I really dont get why having the same guitar in several different colours/finishes etc is worthwhile? Even if money were no object' date=' there are anough great guitars out there to build up one hell of a collection of different axes, so why buy 5 Epi LP's? Enlighten me - maybe i'll see the error of my ways![/quote'] If it's a discontinued guitar they're not making anymore (like the LP elitist) and you love them, better get 'em while you can.
GlennW Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 It's the Law of Attraction, like attracts like.
Ricochet Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 there are anough great guitars out there to build up one hell of a collection of different axes' date=' so why buy 5 Epi LP's? [/quote'] One of the most interesting aspects of having the same model guitar is discovering they all have different 'characters'. It's subtle, but it's there. The better the build, the more apparent this is. Obviously I'm not talking LP100-model here...
Steven Lister Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 ...there are anough great guitars out there to build up one hell of a collection of different axes' date=' so why buy 5 Epi LP's?[/quote']Playing habits/preferences. From a player's perspective it's easier to try to develop expertise with one style guitar than it is to learn several. I play songs in concert tune, alternate tunings, and starting recently w/slide. I wish I had multiple LPs to keep in various tunings/setups for slide. It would be easier than re-adjusting each time to my strat copy that I use for alternate tunings and slide work. The strat's string spacing is wider, it handles differently, feels a bit weird each time, and so on. Hit every BLUE NOTE baaaby..., I'm going to play on:-"
Dave Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 I have a wine red Gibson with 490/498's, A Heritage Cherry Custom Flametop with Seymour Duncan Pearlies, and a Goldtop with P90's. I rotate them out periodically on gigs. I'd like to have a Ferrarri in several colors and engine types, too, but I can't afford that. (GRIN)
cookieman15061 Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 I have 2 casinos. SB with bigs and natural without and both have different tones. The sunburst has a fuller tone with more sustain than the natural. I would assume this is because of the bigsby. The natural has a little more treblely sound. Ofcourse this could also be the difference because the SB w/ bigs is korean while the nat is china made. I'd love to have one more someday and that would be a turquoise one just for the retro look and to complete the trifecta.
Charles Obscure Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Like CB, I'm a believer in the old adage "Variety is the spice of life" in regards to guitars.
dbirchett Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 I have five Gibson Les Pauls. Every one will sell for more than I paid. It's like an Investment that is fun and has an almost guarenteed positive financial return. Besides' date=' everyone knows that you have to have a Black one, a Gold one, a Burst, a Plain one, and one with a broken neck.[/quote'] If that were me, with my wife, I would have four and the one with the broken neck would be me! Seriously, I have 4 electrics and 4 acoustics. Each one has a different sound, a different feel. Whether you think of them as different tools or different colors on a pallet, the analogy is the same.
Just Strum Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 I basically take the same approach as dbirchett, but I must admit that if I did start getting into buying multiples of the same model, I would have one or two more Dots. It would be the inexpensive route of the illness - plus, I would like a red Dot, Oh and maybe a natural Dot, and maybe a Vintage Sunburst. I would do some slight mods to make each one unique.
charlie brown Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Also, in my case, all my guitars were purchased over a 40 year period... I just stopped selling or trading, one..because I always ended up regretting losing whatever I sold/traded, and two...in those days, I LOST money...or at best "broke even," trading. I fully admit, I never had "Junk" guitars...my first electric (a birthday present at 14, in 1964) was a Fender Strat. I still have it! But, I sold/traded 5 gutiars that I SO wish (now) I had not. Gibson '68 LP Custom (Black) Gibson '68 SG Standard (Cherry), Gibson '69 ES-355 Stereo (Cherry), ' 68 Rickenbacker 360-12, and 65 Gretsch Country Gentleman! ('68 was a good year...financially, for me, in the band I was in...hence all the '68 guitars...LOL!) They were sold or traded, at vairous times, later...unfortunately! ;>( Actually, I take that back...I did have a "Junk" acoustic guitar, prior to getting the Strat. It was a "Western Auto" "Truetone" flat top, with action about 1/2" off the fret board. But, it was all I could afford/get, at the time. Thankfully, my dear Mother took pitty on me (after enough whining, on my part ;>) ), and got me the Fender Strat ("L" series, 3-tone sunburst, with rosewood board), for my next birthday. CB
snookelputz Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Every guitar is different from any other guitar. That fact that they are shaped the same doesn't make any difference. You know, they are very like children in that regard. So, should I stop having kids just because of identical twins?
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