Canine Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I don't know much about the new thing, but my kid's into the Ramones, go figure... At least I know who they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Well, there must be some "numbers" indicating what kids or the young adult buying public wants, in that area? So, who's to say what's right or wrong, that way? Whatever sells! I can't even find "my" music, anymore...in a lot of the CD departments, in stores in this area. Of course, in all fairness, that's mostly Walmart, and the like. LOL! It's all "Country," or "Hip-Hop," Britney Spears, Hanna Montana stuff. They have "bins" or cards for all the "Classic Rock" artists, but NO cd's! ;>b "And the Times, they are a changin'!" CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I'm a relic myself........but I LIKE it ! Apparition huh? gonna have to find out when they hit the stores & go try 1 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender 4 Life Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 psssssssssst ! BTW guys...........you're all saying the exact same things your (our) parents said about YOUR musical and instrumental tastes, back in the 60's and 70's. The "heavy metal" kids of today........are the same thing as the "boppers &/or hippies" of yesterday........only the year is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 psssssssssst ! BTW guys...........you're all saying the exact same things your (our) parents said about YOUR musical and instrumental tastes' date=' back in the 60's and 70's. The "heavy metal" kids of today........are the same thing as the "boppers &/or hippies" of yesterday........only the year is different.[/quote'] Yeah, the "ungrateful little Bas...ds!" LOL! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Actually, my Dad was a total Jazz Hound, but my Mom dug most of what I listened to and played as a kid. I have to admit that I like most of what my boys listen too now. In fact, if I didn't think I'd look like a complete A$$Hole, I'd want to play in a Black Metal Band. Those guys are pretty damn powerful! LOL (I can do the growl!) MIDI Bang your head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfrets Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I hate to say it, but I'm old enough to remember when Ibanez was walking in Epis shoes (lower priced models of our beloved Gibson guitars) and carved out a pretty repectable reputation (among players) in the process. Then the "Lawsuit" era began and Ibanez began developing their own models, which became very successfully...but not with their originally targeted market One of the absolute best guitars I ever owned was an Ibanez copy of a '61 SG, though I truly enjoyed their Les Pauls, Rocket Rolls (Flying V) and Destroyers (Explorer) as well, but I never felt any want or need for an Iceman, Jem, Artist or any of their "original" designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canine Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 My mom hated Zeppelin! But if we survived disco, I think we can survive anything, Christina Aguilera is nothing compared to disco way back then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Note Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 According to my son (14) Slipknot is the craze for Heavy Metal and Nickelback is the in band for Rock band. Regarding what guitar or what price range is being spent on guitars for kids, maybe I think it depends on whether the child is just starting out, how serious they think they are and of course how much does a parent want to spend. My son being his first guitar I didn't want to spend too much (budget) and asked around what would be appropriate for him, as he hasn't played before. I found the Epi LP special ll at a special price at Musician Friends, so I got him that for now. So far so good. He loves it and is doing really well with it. If this goes really well (which I think it will) in time and having more knowledge about guitars, will buy a far better one. Personally I didn't see the point just now to go and spend a lot of money if it didn't go well or if he lost interest. Compared to some cheaper brands or not well known ones that seem to be on the market , I think this was a good buy, with a good name. Won't be long before he starts asking for all the extra accessories lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphawki Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Well I don't know what it counts for...but I listen to a lot of stuff like Disturbed, Nickelback and stuff like that. I'm 33 but just bought my first guitar about 2 years ago. (Actually my first instrument!!) I bought into the whole Guitar Hero craze and after playing that thought I should give it a go with the real thing. I started with an Ibanez GAX just cause I liked the looks...but after playing an Epi Les Paul decided I needed to get into that. I would love to have a Gibson but I just couldn't justify getting into that for one of my first guitars. It sounds funny but I wonder how many people ended up buying guitars just based off of that game alone? If anyone is counting I bought mine and brought 2 other friends with me that both bought Epi Les Pauls as well. We purchased due to price, sound and looks. (Mainly the looks part!) We all set out wanting to spend around 500 and under for the whole setup...but wanted to most bang for the buck. Long story short we all ended up with Epi Les Pauls and Line 6 Spider III 15w amps. (Granted I ended up giving my Line 6 to my son for his Squire...both bought right after I got mine...and ended up getting into a Marshall MG 15W just cause I didn't like all the crud on the Line 6.) Don't know if that helps any...but I really don't think I am alone on this one. They are marketing to a lot of first time guitar players on a young family budget I think. I mean if money didn't matter I would have a Marshall stack and the top end Gibson...but for now I have to settle. 33 years old, married with 2 kids. Actually now reading...it's exactly like Blue Note is saying. Same darn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canine Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The Epi LP is one cool guitar! I own a couple Gibson LP that I play and I can tell you that while my Epi LP Standard is no Gibson, it's pretty darn close to the 'real thing'... I never played Guitar Hero, and I'm real bad at video games, but I'm giving my kid a guitar so he can actually play instead of just tapping along with the beat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphawki Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Canine...that's an awesome idea. It was funny, I talked to my mom when I got mine and she was wanting to know why I didn't want all of this growing up. I really didn't have an answer for her...but I really do wish I would have started earlier. Oh well what do you do?? That's why I bought the 12 year old a guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman345 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I, too, am also a middle-aged fossil! I commented in another thread that maybe Epi should market a separate line for guitars such as your Jr.'s, Specials, Strange's, and others that are more entry-level and aimed at the younger consumer. I agree that Epi should keep/reintroduce their original models as well as Gibby clones and Elitists. I started out playing Gibsons in the early 70's but I cannot afford the $2000-4000 to replace what I paid max $550 (used) for back then. I see an Epiphone as "the working man's Gibson", and in some cases (quality control), Gibson may be "the rich man's Epiphone". Sure, there's no doubt that Gibson has superior tonewoods, electronics, finishes, etc., etc., but for a working man's rock and roll, a $2000 difference is really stretching it. I guess that high-end instruments, as well as collectibles, will probably sell for as much as the market will bear. In the meantime, for this old fool, Epi's good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midiman56 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 You know what? I've decided that I started out sounding like a crabby old fart at the start of this thread. I hope Epiphone sells a million of these Aparitions. Why the hell not? If the company is successful and shows a healthy bottom line as a result of this guitar, then they might be more wiliing to take some chances on bringing back some of the vintage stuff. I might not be all that interested in these "pointy" guitars ('cept for devil horns, naturally), but I wish 'em all the best with it. MIDI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Maybe they got rid of the Elitist models to make way for this crap. Look at the prizes in their contest this month Marcus Henderson' date=' "Apparition" signature guitar and Prophecy Les Paul EX and custom Monster Energy LP Personally I don't care for the direction they are taking, but that's just me.[/quote'] as long as they don't discontinue the sheraton, casino, or wildkat, or any of the big jazz box guitars (broadway and the like) i'm ok with all of this. i have no use for active pickups or the ability to be an advertisement for an energy drink, but hell, i don't care as long as they keep the good old stuff... and who needs 20 different les paul models? several signature models from the same person... give me a few hollow/semi hollow guitars, a les paul, and a double neck sg, and i'll be happy. and to all of those anti-pointy guitar posts i'm 17 and i don't like pointy guitars... i think people just take you a bit more seriously if your guitar doesn't look like it was the bastard child of toothpicks and microprocessors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalkens Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 On the Fender Boards, I suggested that they make a "Courtney Taylor-Taylor" signature edition Fender Coronado II Reissue... Thought I was at an owl convention. Who, Who, Who, etc. Courtney TaylorTaylor of The Dandy Warhols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Just my two-cents here, but I'm not a big fan of Epi's metal lineup. I think a lot of players associate metal with dive-bombs and Floyd Rose...which you cant get on an Epi for under $600. And on top of that, Epi only has two models with he FR trem. Dean, Ibanez & Jackson all have this for around half the price on lower-end models. Hell, you can get a brand new Kramer Striker HSH with Quad Rail PUs and an FR trem for $250-ish. Maybe Epi thinks this is more of and "advanced" option, I dont know. But when I think "metal", I dont think "Epiphone". Besides, most of the kids that buy a new guitar cant usually afford a decent amp to go with it, so they end up getting some little 10 watt banger. All the EMG's and coil-taps in the world wont make that sound good. I'd personally opt for the FR and upgrade the PUs later. Epi doesnt really give you this option. I just went to musicyo.com to double check pricing. Gone. Non existant. They closed it on Jan 1st. But on the plus-side, Gibson's info bar is at the top of the Kramer website now. So that is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrirlupus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 just asking, who won the contest(s) with all of the pointy/monster/NAMM stuff? so we can all be pointed and laughed at for our disliking of all things that don't sound or look sweet... (F HOLES FOR THE WIN!!! ... actually, they remind me of integral calculus....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiguy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hey Guys, I'm fifty myself and adore the classics! I own the Les Paul standard, plus top as well as a Korina Explorer for my rock and roll jones. I just tried out the new Prophesy Les Paul with EMGs and jumbo frets and sure enough it's a metal guitar, but boy does it screeeeeeaaaam! The Alnico Classics pale next to these EMGs and yes the thought of replacing batteries along with the memory of bass players losing their signal during live shows still cracks me up! I'm placing the order for the Futura EX tomorrow as I need a screaming metal guitar when we do some 80's. I do a lot of 70s with my classic rock band, but 80's has really gotten big again. I can't stand the guitar that's half SG, and half Flying V and think it should be burned, but some kid is gonna love it! I myself work in a pro shop and we sell Gibsons and Epiphone. The older guys with the dough will show up and drool until they figure out a way to hide the new Gibson VOS on the credit card and sneak it in past the wife. The kids who walk in the store with pierceings and baggy pants hanging around the kneecaps are tuning to drop C and love these Prophesy guitars! The beginners will buy the SGs and Les Paul 100 series along with a Line 6 amp. Epiphone has their fingers in a variety of things and with this economy, they need to be diversified to survive this crunch. Gibson guitars may have gone up in price, but so did your 69 Camaro. The Asians are coming over here and buying up our vintage Gibson and Fender stock and soon, we won't have much, but the re-issues to buy. I myself am bummed that they discontinued so many great guitars like the 56 & 57 Elitist Goldtop, Custom Plus and I wish they would issue the Firebird again and get rid of the studio versions altogether. But...that's just little ole' me! My favorite new guitar is an old Nighthawk that I use for blues slide work! Those OBL pickups scream and she gets downright contankerous through a Vox head and Epi Jr Cabinet. I think my next guitar might be a Sheraton II for some real BeBop love. I'm sure the Prophesy line will quiet down after a bit and the classics will make a comeback, they always do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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