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Hi

 

I just bought an epiphone les paul goldtop 56 reissue in ebony. Great guitar, just done a set up and changed strings.

 

I'd like to customize it. i'll change the knobs with some black/silver hat and new pickups.

 

In clean

The stock are quite good but i found the neck lack of sweetness, warmth.. I'd like big low frequencies.

The bridge as less punch than the neck PU, in my opinion.

 

In Overdrive , they sound very very good, If they could convinced me in clean as in overdrive, i wouldn't change.

 

 

So i'd like to have your opinions.

 

I'm looking at the Seymour Duncan sp90-1 (alnicoV as the stock one) in the neck and the sp90-2 ("little ceramic" ? have an idea what they meant? ) in the bridge.

 

Do you think that the sp90-1 would bring more warmth, bass etc ? More punch with the sp90-2? Will the ceramic sound more strident than the alnico V ?

 

 

Thaks for reading

 

 

Falko

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Well, yeah, i know, it sound strange,, but this IS the name of the guitare.

 

http://www.ezfolk.com/mf/electric-guitar/Epiphone_Les_Paul_1956_Electric_Guitar_with_P-90s_Reissue_Ebony.html

 

They messed withe the picture , but i've got the truss rod cover with "'56 goldtop reissue ". It has the 'limited edition custom shop" behind the neck.

 

Here, in the reviews, someone else talk about that

 

http://www.ezfolk.com/mf/electric-guitar/Epiphone_Les_Paul_1956_Electric_Guitar_with_P-90s_Reissue_Ebony.html

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You have the wrong truss rod covere withe youre gutare.

 

Welcomeee toeee theeee forumeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

 

maybe you should do some resurch before you open your mouth that is a '56 reisue Goldtop in ebony i had a goldtop i sold it due to not really caring for the P-90 but i would most likely get another one but i would do a mini hummer in the bridge and put a lil hotter P90 in the neck... but thats me..

 

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Les-Paul-1956-with-P90s-Reissue?sku=512584

Posted

why don't you try the Mini Humbuckers instead of your P90s..they'll provide you with the warmth and the crunch you need...seymour Duncan has some great mini.bucks and they are very much compatible with, rock, blues and metal..

 

 

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Yes i tought about the minbuckers option.

 

Thing is i really dig the P90. Hav an gibson lees pau specia with P90, casino with P90...

 

First time i heard a band playing with p90, i ffound my PU. This is what i wanted a guitar to sound.

 

 

( Anyway, if i' not conviced with aother P90.... Doe it need many trouble to put minbuckerrs in P90 hole?

Like the screws on each side of the buckers, they are fixed in a plate in the hole of the pickups or in the wood? Maybe i'll start a new topic then.)

 

 

Anyone tryied the combination SP90-1 at bridge and SP90-2 in neck?

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maybe you should do some resurch before you open your mouth that is a '56 reisue Goldtop in ebony

 

 

Maybe you should shut your mouth as musicians friend make no referance to it being a goldtop at all and the truss rod cover on the ebony 56 is quite clearly a standard one like this...

 

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Not a Goldtop one like this...

 

 

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So like I said, he has the wrong TRC.

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I always thought a Gold Top should be gold. Maybe not. Life goes on.

From what I read, the 56 Reissue is no longer in production. It was never meant to sound like a humbucker. It was designed prior to the release of the humbucker.

I used. mine last week on a gig along side my Gibby LP Studio.

What I have noticed and others may share my opinion, you have to go out and gig with your guitar to really appreciate the pickups. At home I roll off the highs because the pickups sound too bright. On a gig, it is just the opposite.

If you are playing in a group situation, you need to be able to cut through the mix, especially on the lower strings.

The P90's do the trick without getting muddy.

You also have to add your amp to the equation.

Posted

its not the wrong TRC damn man someones not going to swap out TRC just to do it.. whatever i dont feel like getting in to a pissing match with you about a TRC

 

 

edit... i know someone on here has a Ebony goldtop and i know what the pics at MF say.. but they came from epiphone saying '56 Goldtop

 

MTA61 Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:29:10 AM

 

Now I decide maybe I'll try the Ebony 56. I get that in another 2 weeks and it has clearly been played before. The plastic over the pickups is gone, the pickup screws have been raised and and the truss rod cover that says "56 Gold Top" has been painted over black, and the fret edges had been bevelled so badly the were 1/32" away from the first string on the lower frets!Sent it back.

Posted
its not the wrong TRC damn man someones not going to swap out TRC just to do it.. whatever i dont feel like getting in to a pissing match with you about a TRC

 

 

edit... i know someone on here has a Ebony goldtop and i know what the pics at MF say.. but they came from epiphone saying '56 Goldtop

 

 

Its called the 'Epiphone Les Paul '56 with P-90s Reissue'

 

It doesn't mention the word Goldtop anywhere in any of the official blurb, and the official picture shows a 'Standard' TRC, so do you not think it probable that our Chinese friends fitted a lot of them with the wrong TRCs?

Posted

 

Its called the 'Epiphone Les Paul '56 with P-90s Reissue'

 

It doesn't mention the word Goldtop anywhere in any of the official blurb' date=' and the official picture shows a 'Standard' TRC, so do you not think it probable that our Chinese friends fitted a lot of them with the wrong TRCs?[/quote']

 

 

with everone that was made?? no i dont think so.. i think what it is a p-90 guitar thats called a '56 Goldtop so thats the TRC that go's on the guitar... i think at this point we need to agree to dis-agree

Posted

if you want the VERY BEST p-90 pups on the planet, then you should ABSOLUTELY

go with JASON LOLLAR'S!!!!

 

i am a huge fan of duncan pups, but his p-90's have always been harsh sounding

to me.

 

get the lollars and NEVER look back.

Posted

 

 

with everone that was made?? no i dont think so.. i think what it is a p-90 guitar thats called a '56 Goldtop so thats the TRC that go's on the guitar... i think at this point we need to agree to dis-agree

 

No, you know of two with GT TRCs. How do you know they all have them? The one on MF's site doesn't have one. Gibson also brought out an ebony Les Paul with P-90s its called a Les Paul Standard P-90 not a Goldtop. Same with the Epi.

Posted

I've been looking at Guitarfetish's GFS Dream 90's. You can drop them into a humbucker sized setup...I've also read great reviews about Seymourt Duncan's Phat Cats...

 

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Hey guys, I got a 56 reissue in ebony from MF back in April I think it was, and I noticed it had a Goldtop TRC. I also noticed the finish was kind of dull, almost like it was'nt buffed, so I pulled the cover plate off the back and it was obviously a Goldtop refinished in ebony from the factory. I don't abuse my guitars but I don't ever polish them so a minor cosmetic flaw wont bother me. BTW I love them P90's, they ROCK!

Posted
Hey guys' date=' I got a 56 reissue in ebony from MF back in April I think it was, and I noticed it had a Goldtop TRC. I also noticed the finish was kind of dull, almost like it was'nt buffed, so I pulled the cover plate off the back and it was obviously a Goldtop refinished in ebony from the factory. I don't abuse my guitars but I don't ever polish them so a minor cosmetic flaw wont bother me. BTW I love them P90's, they ROCK![/quote']

 

pics please

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My "Goldie" has the standard Epi P90s and I wouldn't really consider changing them. P90s, like any single coil pickup are going to be "cleaner" when not overdriven and a different dirty sound when cranked.

 

Yesterday I took my new Squire Tele to church and played it and got several comments about how people loved the sound of my new guitar. Go figure. I thought it sounded a little thin after playing LPs for so long. The P90s in the Goldtop can get the same sounds, with a little less brightness and more mids. I had to back the tone control off on the Tele to about 1/8 turn from off to attenuate the twang to a tolerable level.

 

Humbuckers always get the best dirty sounds, but P90s are nice if your expectations aren't for them to be humbuckers.

Posted

Hi all

 

i know, they soud very good, but they are to shiny for me. I don't speek very well english, so i can't describe you as well as i would like to. They are too bright in my opinion. It is the only bad point for them, with the bridge witch in my opinion lack of power.

 

So i thought about changing those PU. But maybe caps change could do the job? I don't know anything in electronics etc and all is esplain in english so i'm not sure i get it. I don't even think i could find someone here in belgium who could help me whith those questions on caps changing.

 

Anyway, mini humbuckers will be my last pick. Ireally want to have a nice p90 LP.

 

Here are some picture that , i hope will close the debate about the 56 reissue goldtop.. in ebony. So i think it is not a standard with p90 but a goldtop repaint in gold, as you can see in those pictures.

 

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sorry for the bad quality. You can see the truss rod, witch i didn't change. you can see on the neck a dot of gold paint as in the cavity.

And i think that wiring tied together like that is tipycal of a real (non-fake) (quigdao EE serial number) epiphone. Am i wrong?

 

 

Now, off topic, I am waiting an email of service of gibson.com to know why, how etc about that ebony finish. Maybe for selling those goldtop still in stock beacause of the slash goldtop?

 

Falko

 

Edit: picutre of the limited edition logo

Posted

its a real guitar everyone of the Ebony goldtop ive seen has the '56 Gold Top TRC on it altho my goldtop was not a custom shop limited edtion so thats pretty kick ***

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