invasion Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I am just about to buy a les paul studio and some sort of amp, when I got to thinking, if you use somthing like the valvetronix from vox would it sound the same with a les paul or say a washburn x50 or somthing ? What I am saying is i guess, do you lose the gitars Identity with effects and modelling amps? does any humbucker guitar sound the same or will the gibson sound shine through. as money is an issue as I am married and the wife doesnt like guitars :D I dont want to buy a les paul if a say x50 pro will sound close and only cost me £379with an EMG's 81/85 dont get me wrong I have alwyas wanted a les paul for like 20 years or so but I was just thinking! Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plank_Spanker Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 As good as Lesters are, they won't make all amps sound good. No two guitars sound the same - period. The amp is a big part of the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 As good as Lesters are' date=' they won't make all amps sound good. No two guitars sound the same - period. The amp is a [b']big[/b] part of the sound. +1 if money is tight, buy a SMALL tube amp...EPI VJ or Blackheart. if a little more cash is available, try a Fender Blues Junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnstrom Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 If you waited this long for a Les Paul wait a little longer and get an amp you will love! In the mean time practice on a cheap Fender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I think it will sound good on that amp, better than the cheap-o hanging on the wall above it! But, it will not sound "perfect" as you imagine when someone mentions a lester. I would wait, save a little more and go for an amp without FX (those things built in kill the amp). If you like effects a lot you can always buy stomp boxes or even a multi (which IMO beats the reason why you bought a non-fx amp in the first place). At a very low price you have blackheart and epi valve jr, and then the peavey classic 30 and the valveking... (the windsor was about 499, was it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 as money is an issue as I am married and the wife doesnt like guitars Get a new wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Get a new wife. well played, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjimdom Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I was just about to order a blackheart little giant 3/5 watt stack today when I went back to get it "OUT OF STOCK" They got them and sold them all in one day. Must be a combo of preorders and "notify me" emails. Well I just missed that boat, now onto saving for either a AC15 or Tiny Terror Love the Orange sound, but I can pick up the AC 15 for the cost of the head not counting the cab. I'm torn. Enough about me and my GAS or AAS Deffinately gonna want a tube amp in the long run...here's a suggestion Buy a small Valvetronix, maybe a DA5. So you can explore some different effects and it wont break your bank. Later if you decide you want a tube amp (which you likely will) the small amp is still great and convenient for practicing and portability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out_Of_Control Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've Never Met A Vox That I Liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marantz1300 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Check out the car boot sales.I got a dallas arbiter valve amp for £12.A hiwatt dr103 for £65 and a mesa boogie studio pre with 50/50 power amp for£100 over the last 6 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've Never Met A Vox That I Liked. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mash94 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 AAS haha, thats my nickname.... On the subject, I love the Marshall MG100DFX. It sounds great and is only $469. It is 100W btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaresz Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've Never Met A Vox That I Liked. Funny, I never met one I didn't like. That's what makes everyones sound there own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Well, I own both a LP Studio and a Vox Valvetronix amp. But my AD 50VT is just a practice amp. I'm not sure if I would want it as my main amp to use with my LP. I ignore most of the effects on it anyway other than the reverb. IMO, the only models on it that retain the tone of the LP are the Blackface, Tweed and AC30 settings. The Boutique Clean is really the only usuable totally clean setting on the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I have a little Marshall AVT-20, I use (mostly for practice) but in some small club and bar gigs, too! Nice clean, and great "marshall roar," too....for a hybrid amp! Down side, no foot switch or channel switching...AVT-50 does, though! I've played Fender's, LP's, SG's, and 335's through "Vox," Valvetronix, and the AC's, too. The AC's won, but the Valvetronix were GREAT, for that type of an amp, and that money! Look into a Fender "Blues Junior," too! Wonderful little amp, and plenty loud, for 15 watts! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I have the 50 watt valvetronix and it's okay. I prefer my blues junior. The only models I ever used on the VT were the AC30 and the Clean (fender twin-esque) settings. For the money of the 50 watt I would go with the blues jr., for the smaller VTs I would probably go with the Fender Super Champ (tube). In short, I think I would answer yes to your question. My LP sounds fine out of the VT, but it doesn't sounds as good as it does through the Blues Jr..... So I guess it is giving up something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hey Invasion? A Les Paul is NEVER a waste, I don't care if you play it through a Drive 10 watt crappy practice amp. A waste? I aint never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Well I use a Marshall MG100DFX half stack, and also a Vox Super Lead Series. Never seen another of these amps and can't find any info other than they made a small run years ago. The LP sounds great through both, just a great sounding guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Amen Rob! I got the first valve Marshall (VS100RH), and just about any guitar I play through it sounds outstanding, especially the Les Paul. I am convinced it's a match made in heaven. I played my daughter's Squier mini Strat the other night through it, and marveled at how "Jimi-like" it sounded. Too bad the guitars a hardtail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemunkey Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I play through a Vox ADT100 head and sealed 2x12" cabinet. It's FANTASTIC! I don't think there's a sound I can't get. The Vox amps are remarkable because the tube-controlled power amp section makes it "punchy" like a tube amp, which delivers great warmth to the tone. A regular tube amp does too, but is typically much more limited in the variation of tone it can produce because of factors like output tube biasing, which you really can't control from the front of the amp. The new Line 6/Bogner has some crappy mixed effects, but as a high-gain ripping tube amp, the sound is fantastic! It does this great preamp tube compression when the gain is cranked. Makes notes simply SING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckster47 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hmmm, good question! I run my LP vintage mahogany (BB Pros) thru an ElectroHarmonix English Muff'n (albeit hot rodded a bit with 2 x 12AX7EH valves instead of the standard 2 x 12AY7EH) so a bit more gain as a preamp into my little Marshall MG15DFX (albeit with an upgrade from the standard 8" speaker to a 10" Celestion Tube 10) and that does sound good! So, maybe that kind of like a Valvetronic. I fiddled around with digital effects etc but something with valves made all the difference. Dunno if the way the BBPros deal with pick attack so well or what by it really sounds good when you get into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invasion Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hi thanks for the replies much appreciated! ok well I am going for the les Paul no matter what I have wanted one for to long now ! so it all comes down to the amp I guess. I saw a Krank today it was a "Rev Jr half stack" what do you guys think of this? or the guiy that owns my local music shop has a crate V5 he said he would sell me for £80 ?? and last option I thought a Peavey royal 8 valveking ?? so tell me what you guys think REegards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hi thanks for the replies much appreciated! ok well I am going for the les Paul no matter what I have wanted one for to long now ! so it all comes down to the amp I guess. I saw a Krank today it was a "Rev Jr half stack" what do you guys think of this? or the guiy that owns my local music shop has a crate V5 he said he would sell me for £80 ?? and last option I thought a Peavey royal 8 valveking ?? so tell me what you guys think REegards I used to own one of those KRANKS (bought it in january and sold it recently, seems Im as GASious as the rest of the folks around here hehehe). Very good amp if you are into very distorted tones, the clean wasnt my favorite, I didnt sell it because I didnt like it, but because I was having problems storing all those things and keeping them on acount... so I sold the lot of them (some amps fx and guitars as well as some studio equipment/furniture that I wasnt needing and using). Very good amp for the price, but as I said before, the clean doesnt come close to a VOX or Fender tube clean tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Deadhead Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Never played through a V5 but I have a Crate V15 that sounds sweet with my Studio. Nice warm tube crunch... The Epiphone VJ half stack sounds really good on my friend's lester also. 5 watts and only a volume control but it's loud and crunchy. Don't know what they go for across the pond, but they run about $250 here at most of the online dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esch Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 As far as I'm concerned, don't go the modeling route. It will kill your tone and you may not even realize it, and what a sacrifice when you have a great guitar. The modeling amps + tube are just a further gimmick IMHO. I've been through the long path to get to the amps I have now, including owning any number of cutting edge modeling amps and other products. They are versatile no doubt and I liked that for quite a while. If you value versatility over tone then by all means be my guest. For me, I went back to all valve amps and a few carefully selected individual stomp boxes because having extra effects I might use once in a blue moon wasnt as important as getting a great core tone. Get yourself a good small wattage tube amp or better yet order a modded Epi Junior from http://www.bemisamps.com/html/amplifiers.html and try to use a big cabinet like a 4x12 with good speakers if you can. I have one of these amps it is class A, 3W/7W and sounds delightful, articulate tone, very complex and great for rehearsing or recording. Then when you can afford to get another more powerful amp (never more than 50W!!!) you can keep the small one as well and it will still be good quality, not go obsolete like a modeling amp (a modeling amp is more like a computer than an amp so it will be almost worthless when the next best thing comes out). If you take a look at resale value for modeling amps vs. list price you will see what I mean. No offence to fans of modeling, that's just not my preference any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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