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Hey I am planning on buying my first Epi Semihollow on saturday and I was curious if you guys can tell me whether ot not this is a fake. I am concerned because the seller can't find a serial # and the "E" on the pick guard looks different from what I've seen:

 

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If it is legit, what year do yiou guys reckon it is?

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Not sure why someone would fake a Korean-made guitar? Are these Korean-made Sheratons now selling for big bucks?

 

lol good point. I always just thought it was wise to get a serial number before buying any used guitar.

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It certainly looks real enough, but there should at least be an Epi label inside the f-hole. And they're not easy to remove cleanly unless left off during construction which would be unlikely. But there are a lot of "authentic" factory used, 2nds and parted up Sheratons floating around, just search ebay or this fourm for examples. As for the value of Korean made guitars, they are rising slowly and many are made quite well. No they don't have the cache of an American-made ES-33X, but they also don't cost >$3k, so Epis have become the workingman's collectable.

 

That's me and most of the folks on this forum, working folks or "Joe quitar player", as Sarah Palin would say.

 

In any case, I think that Epi is real, but if I were buying it, I'd want to know its provenance, if for nothing more than resale-ability.

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I've never seen a pickguard with that shape "e" on it.

 

I agree with Jeffrey. However, given the propensity of the foil 'e' to drop off at any given moment, I wonder whether a previous owner just fabricated a new one by some means or another...

 

Other than that, the guitar looks fine...

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The name on the headstock looks better here.

 

I'm sorry, I thought you were refering to the "e" on the pickguard. I knew that you've been around long enough to see that shape.

 

You're right, the "e" on the headstock is almost a block style letter.

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I'm sorry' date=' I thought you were refering to the "e" on the pickguard. I knew that you've been around long enough to see that shape.

 

You're right, the "e" on the headstock is almost a block style letter.[/quote']

 

I was (the pickguard e looks like the e on the previous suspect Sheraton, but the headstock logo looks better).

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I was (the pickguard e looks like the e on the previous suspect Sheraton' date=' but the headstock logo looks better).[/quote']

 

The pick guard is clearly not original but the guitar is real.

 

Why do people thing that a someone who makes fake guitars would bother with a US$ 300 Sheraton when he can get far more money making a Gibson fake??? #-o

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The pick guard is clearly not original but the guitar is real.

 

Why do people thing that a someone who makes fake guitars would bother with a US$ 300 Sheraton when he can get far more money making a Gibson fake??? #-o

 

That's a completely different question. He simply asked if this guitar looked like a fake' date=' not if we thought that was a bright strategy for counterfeiting guitars. But I have seen far more attempts to sell fake Epiphones than fake Gibsons. Only an idiot would buy a supposedly new Gibson on-line with the guitar shipping directly from China.[b'] The fact is, people do fake Epiphones.[/b]

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"Not sure why someone would fake a Korean-made guitar?"

 

as Jeffery points out, it has been determined without a doubt that counterfeit epiphones exist...considering that the level of

detail and workmanship is generally lower in the average epiphone as compared to a gibson, it makes perfect sense to

produce counterfeits, as they can be manufactured cheaply and quickly...epiphone even has a link regarding the subject...

 

"Haven't yet heard of any Epi semi- or hollow-bodied fakes. There are plenty of Gibsons though."

 

although I don't think any fake sheratons have surfaced, there have been a number of obviously fake Joe Pass Emperor IIs

posted here, and possibly even some casinos...

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Hey I am planning on buying my first Epi Semihollow on saturday and I was curious if you guys can tell me whether ot not this is a fake. I am concerned because the seller can't find a serial # and the "E" on the pick guard looks different from what I've seen:

 

DSCN0089.jpg

 

DSCN0092.jpg

 

DSCN0093.jpg

 

If it is legit' date=' what year do you guys reckon it is?[/quote']

 

EpiElitist, from what I've seen over the years, this looks like one of the Japanese manufactured Sheraton II's

which had the Gibson TRC (Truss Rod Cover) and the Episolon like that on the pickguard. The earlier pickguards

were either tortoise shell or more tortoise shell-like than the current Sheraton II's being made. Even the bridge

looks more like the ones on the Japanese models than the Korean or more current Chinese models. If I remember

from seeing earlier pictures of 60-70's models of Epiphone pickguards like this or on the Casinos, they had

Episolons that look like this. Also, the guitar case you have (TKL made in Canada) looks exactly like the case

I got with my Sheraton II, which is official.

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EpiElitist' date=' from what I've seen over the years, this looks like one of the Japanese manufactured Sheraton II's

which had the Gibson TRC (Truss Rod Cover) and the Episolon like that on the pickguard. The earlier pickguards

were either tortoise shell or more tortoise shell-like than the current Sheraton II's being made. Even the bridge

looks more like the ones on the Japanese models than the Korean or more current Chinese models. If I remember

from seeing earlier pictures of 60-70's models of Epiphone pickguards like this or on the Casinos, they had

Episolons that look like this. Also, the guitar case you have (TKL made in Canada) looks exactly like the case

I got with my Sheraton II, which is official. [/quote']

 

You're telling me this is a MIJ sheraton? That's really good right?

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"Haven't yet heard of any Epi semi- or hollow-bodied fakes. There are plenty of Gibsons though."

 

although I don't think any fake sheratons have surfaced' date=' there have been a number of obviously fake Joe Pass Emperor IIs

posted here, and possibly even some casinos...

[/quote]

 

Sorry, I stand corrected, I was thinking of thinlines, and I hadn't heard of casinos yet.

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Hey I am planning on buying my first Epi Semihollow on saturday and I was curious if you guys can tell me whether ot not this is a fake. I am concerned because the seller can't find a serial # and the "E" on the pick guard looks different from what I've seen:

 

DSCN0089.jpg

 

DSCN0092.jpg

 

DSCN0093.jpg

 

If it is legit' date=' what year do yiou guys reckon it is?[/quote']

 

Again...this guitar is 100% legitimate

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